As official videographer for the U.S. government, Kurt Sonnenfeld was detailed to Ground Zero on September 11, 2001, where he spent one month filming 29 tapes: “What I saw at certain moments and in certain places … is very disturbing!” He never handed them over to the authorities and has been persecuted ever since. Kurt Sonnenfeld lives in exile in Argentina, where he wrote « El Perseguido » (the persecuted). His recently-published book tells the story of his unending nightmare and drives another nail into the coffin of the government’s account of the 9/11 events. Below is an exclusive interview by Voltairenet.
- Kurt Sonnenfeld and unidentified search and rescue specialist in subterranean void beneath Ground Zero.
Introduction
Kurt Sonnenfeld graduated from the University of Colorado (USA) with studies in International Affairs and Economics, as well as in Literature and Philosophy. He worked for the United States government as official videographer and served as Director of Broadcast Operations for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)’s National Emergency Response Team. Additionally, Kurt Sonnenfeld was contracted by several other governmental agencies and programs for classified and “sensitive” operations at military and scientific installations throughout the United States.
On September 11, 2001, the area known as “Ground Zero” was sealed from the public eye. Sonnenfeld, however, was given unrestricted access enabling him to document for the investigation (that never took place) and provide some “sanitized” pool video to virtually every news network in the world. The tapes that reveal some of the anomalies which he discovered at Ground Zero are still in his possession.
Accused of a crime that did not occur in a manifest frame-up scenario, Kurt Sonnenfeld has been persecuted across continents. After several years of fear, injustice and isolation, he has decided to take a public stand against the Government’s official story and is prepared to submit his material to the close scrutiny of reliable experts.
- Kurt Sonnenfeld
Interview
Voltaire Network: Your autobiographical book titled “El Perseguido” (the persecuted) was recently published in Argentina where you live in exile since 2003. Tell us who is persecuting you.
Kurt Sonnenfeld: Although it is autobiographical, it is not my life story. Rather it is a history of the extraordinary events that have happened to me and my family at the hands of U.S. authorities over the course of more than seven years, spanning two hemispheres, after my tour of duty at Ground Zero and becoming an inconvenient witness.
Voltaire Network: You explained that your request for refugee status within the terms of the Geneva 1951 Convention is still being considered by the Argentinean Senate, while in 2005 you were granted political asylum, albeit, on a provisional basis. That probably makes you the first U.S. citizen in that situation! And no doubt the first U.S. Government official with direct exposure to the events surrounding September 11, 2001 who has “blown the whistle”. Is this what drove you into exile?
- With wife Paula, testifying before Senate
Kurt Sonnenfeld: A refugee is a person who has been forced to leave (or stay away from) his or her country for reasons of persecution. It’s undeniable that many people have been persecuted unfairly as a result of the quasi-fascist laws and policies brought about by the shock of September 11, 2001, and they deserve refugee status. But the fact is, requesting refugee status is a risky and dangerous step to take. America is the world’s only remaining “superpower”, and dissent has been effectively repressed. Any person who requests refugee status on political grounds is by nature making an extreme statement of dissent. And if your request is denied, what do you do? Once you make the request, there can be no going back.
Personally, I wasn’t forced to leave the United States, and I certainly did not “flee”. At the time I was still fairly oblivious to what was actually brewing against me. I hadn’t connected the dots yet; so that when I left in early 2003 I had every intention of returning. I came to Argentina for a short respite; to try to recuperate after all that had happened to me. I travelled here freely, with my own passport, using my own credit cards. But because of an incredible series of events, I have since been forced into exile, and I haven’t been back.
Voltaire Network: What type of events are you referring to?
Kurt Sonnenfeld: I’ve suffered false accusations for “crimes” that demonstrably did not happen, abusive imprisonment and torture as a result of those accusations, as well as outrageous calumnies against my reputation, death threats, kidnap attempts and several other violations of civil and human rights as denounced by numerous international accords. My return to the United States would not only be a continuation of those violations, but would be aggregated by the separation – perhaps permanent – from my wife and three-year old twin daughters, the only thing remaining that I have to live for. And then, after the impossibility of receiving a fair trial for a crime that did not happen, I could be subject to the death penalty.
Voltaire Network: In 2005, the U.S. Government lodged a request to have you extradited, which was turned down by a Federal Judge. Then, in 2007, the Argentinean Supreme Court – in a show of integrity and independence – turned down the U.S. appeal, but your Government persisted. Can you shed some light on the situation ?
Kurt Sonnenfeld: In 2008, the US government appealed again, this time with absolutely no legal foundation, to the Supreme Court, which will surely uphold the two already unassailable rulings made by the Federal Judge.
In one of those rulings, it was also noted that there were too many “sombras”, or shadows, surrounding my case. There were many, many obvious fabrications in the extradition order sent here by US authorities, and, thankfully, we were able prove that. The fact that there were so many fabrications has actually served to support my request for asylum. We were also able to show that we had been subject to a prolonged campaign of harassment and intimidation from US intelligence services. As a result, since my family has been assigned round-the-clock police protection. As one senator has noted about my case: “It is their behavior that belies their true motivations”.
- Sonnenfeld and his family are frequently harassed, followed, and photographed, as shown in this photo.
Voltaire Network: They want you pretty badly for a “crime that did not happen”! How do you account for such doggedness? As a FEMA official, you must have been trusted by your government. At what point did the situation capsize?
Kurt Sonnenfeld: In hindsight, I realize now that the situation had capsized some time before I actually became aware that it had capsized. Initially, the false accusation against me was completely irrational, and I was totally destroyed by it. It is incredibly difficult to have suffered the loss of someone you love to suicide, but to then be accused of it is too much to bear. The case was dismissed based on a mountain of evidence that overwhelmingly absolved me (Nancy, my wife, had left behind a suicide note and a journal of suicidal writings ; she had a family history of suicide ; etc.). The prosecution was 100% sure of my innocence before requesting the dismissal of charge.
But the sustained incarceration even AFTER it was indicated that I was to be freed was what proved to me that something was happening under the surface. I was held in jail for FOUR MONTHS after my lawyers were informed that the case was to be dismissed and was finally released in June 2002. During that time, an amazing series of strange events began to occur. While still being held, I had a telephone conversation with FEMA officials in an effort to resolve the issue, but I realized that I was considered “compromised”. I was told it had been agreed that “the agency had to be protected”, especially in light of the upheaval that was threatening with the implementation of the “Patriot Act” and the expected usurpation that would come with the new Department of Homeland Security. After all the dangers I had risked, all hardship and difficulties I had endured for them for almost 10 years, I felt betrayed. It left a void in my soul.
Because of their abandonment, I told them I didn’t have the tapes, that I gave them to “some bureaucrat” in New York, and that they would have to wait until I was released to retrieve any other documents in my possession. Soon after that conversation, my house was “seized”, the locks were changed, and men were observed by neighbors entering my house, though there is no record in the court of their entry, as would be required. When I was finally released, I discovered that my office had been ransacked, my computer was missing, and that my tape library in my basement had been dug through and several were missing. Men were constantly parked on the street near my house, my security system was “hacked” more than once, outdoor security lights were unscrewed, etc., to the point that I went to stay with some friends at their condo in the mountains, which was then ALSO broken into.
Anyone who looks for the truth recognizes that there has been an amazing series of irregularities in this case and that an appalling injustice is being carried out on me and my loved ones. This intense campaign to return me to American soil is a false pretext for other darker motives.
Voltaire Network: You have suggested that you observed things at Ground Zero that did not tally with the official account. Did you do or say anything to arouse suspicion in this respect?
Kurt Sonnenfeld: In that same telephone call I said that I would “go public”, not only with my suspicions about the events surrounding September 11, 2001, but about several contracts I had worked on in the past.
- Sonnenfeld at Ground Zero, investigating a “void” beneath fallen steel beams.
Voltaire Network: What are your suspicions based on?
Kurt Sonnenfeld: There were many things, in hindsight, that were disturbing at Ground Zero. It was odd to me that I was dispatched to go to New York even before the second plane hit the South Tower, while the media was still reporting only that a “small plane” had collided with the North Tower — far too small of a catastrophe at that point to involve FEMA . FEMA was mobilized within minutes, whereas it took ten days for it to deploy to New Orleans to respond to Hurricane Katrina, even with abundant advance warning! It was odd to me that all cameras were so fiercely prohibited within the secured perimeter of Ground Zero, that the entire area was declared a crime scene and yet the “evidence” within that crime scene was so rapidly removed and destroyed. And then it was very odd to me when I learned that FEMA and several other federal agencies had already moved into position at their command center at Pier 92 on September 10th, one day before the attacks!
- Rubber landing-gear tyres visible in evidence container marked “FBI Plane Parts Only.”
We are asked to believe that all four of the “indestructible” black boxes of the two jets that struck the twin towers were never found because they were completely vaporized, yet I have footage of the rubber wheels of the landing gear nearly undamaged, as well as the seats, parts of the fuselage and a jet turbine that were absolutely not vaporized. This being said, I do find it rather odd that such objects could have survived fairly intact the type of destruction that turned most of the Twin Towers into thin dust. And I definitely harbor some doubts about the authenticity of the “jet” turbine, far too small to have come from one of the Boeings!
- “Boeing” jet turbine at Fresh Kills island landfill.
What happened with Building 7 is incredibly suspicious. I have video that shows how curiously small the rubble pile was, and how the buildings to either side were untouched by Building Seven when it collapsed. It had not been hit by an airplane; it had suffered only minor injuries when the Twin Towers collapsed, and there were only small fires on a couple of floors. There’s no way that building could have imploded the way it did without controlled demolition. Yet the collapse of Building 7 was hardly mentioned by the mainstream media and suspiciously ignored by the 911 Commission.
Voltaire Network: Reportedly, the underground levels of WTC7 contained sensitive and undoubtedly compromising archival material. Did you come across any of it?
Kurt Sonnenfeld: The Secret Service, the Department of Defense, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Internal Revenue Service, the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Office of Emergency Management’s “Crisis Center” occupied huge amounts of space there, spanning several floors of the building. Other federal agencies had offices there as well. After September 11, it was discovered that concealed within Building Seven was the largest clandestine domestic station of the Central Intelligence Agency outside of Washington DC, a base of operations from which to spy on diplomats of the United Nations and to conduct counterterrorism and counterintelligence missions.
There was no underground parking level at Seven World Trade Center. And there was no underground vault. Instead, the federal agencies at Building Seven stored their vehicles, documents and evidence in the building of their associates across the street. Beneath the plaza level of US Customs House (Building 6) was a large underground garage, separated off from the rest of the complex’s underground area and guarded under tight security. This was where the various government services parked their bomb-proofed cars and armored limousines, counterfeit taxi cabs and telephone company trucks used for undercover surveillance and covert operations, specialized vans and other vehicles. Also within that secured parking area was access to the sub-level vault of Building 6.
- Approaching the entrance to the sub-level areas of Building 6
When the North Tower fell, the US Customs House (Building 6) was crushed and totally incinerated. Much of the underground levels beneath it were also destroyed. But there were voids. And it was into one of those voids, recently uncovered, that I descended with a special Task Force to investigate. It was there we found the security antechamber to the vault, badly damaged. At the far end of the security office was the wide steel door to the vault, a combination code keypad in the cinderblock wall beside it. But the wall was cracked and partially crumbled, and the door was sprung partially open. So we checked inside with our flashlights. Except for several rows of empty shelves, there was nothing in the vault but dust and debris. It had been emptied. Why was it empty? And when could it have been emptied?
Voltaire Network: Is this what set alarm bells ringing for you?
Kurt Sonnenfeld: Yes, but not immediately. With so much chaos, it was difficult to think. It was only after digesting everything that the “alarm bells” went off.
Building Six was evacuated within twelve minutes after the first airplane struck the North Tower. The streets were immediately clogged with fire trucks, police cars and blocked traffic, and the vault was large enough, 15 meters by 15 meters by my estimate, to necessitate at least a big truck to carry out its contents. And after the towers fell and destroyed most of the parking level, a mission to recover the contents of the vault would have been impossible. The vault had to have been emptied before the attack.
I’ve described all of this extensively in my book, and it’s apparent that things of importance were taken out of harm’s way before the attacks. For example, the CIA didn’t seem too concerned about their losses. After the existence of their clandestine office in Building Seven was discovered, an agency spokesman told the newspapers that a special team had been dispatched to scour the rubble in search of secret documents and intelligence reports, though there were millions, if not billions of pages floating in the streets. Nevertheless, the spokesman was confident. “There shouldn’t be too much paper around,” he said.
- The bizarre hollowed-out vestiges of The US Customs House (Building Six)
And Customs at first claimed that everything was destroyed. That the heat was so intense that everything in the evidence safe had been baked to ash. But some months later, they announced that they had broken up a huge Colombian narco-trafficking and money-laundering ring after miraculously recovering crucial evidence from the safe, including surveillance photos and heat-sensitive cassette tapes of monitored calls. And when they moved in to their new building at 1 Penn Plaza in Manhattan, they proudly hung on the lobby wall their Commissioner’s Citation Plaque and their big round US Customs Service ensign, also miraculously recovered, in pristine condition, from their crushed and cremated former office building at the World Trade Center.
Voltaire Network: You weren’t alone on the Ground Zero assignment. Did the others notice the same anomalies? Do you know whether they have they also been harassed?
Kurt Sonnenfeld: Actually there were a few people on two different excursions that I know about. Some of us even discussed it afterwards. They know who they are and I hope that they will come forward, but I’m sure they have strong apprehensions as to what will happen to them if they do. I will leave it to them to decide, but there is strength in numbers.
Voltaire Network: With the publication of your book, you have become a “whistleblower” – yet another step on which there is no going back! There must be many people with inside knowledge about what really happened or did not happen on that fateful day. Yet, hardly any have stepped up to the plate and certainly no one who was directly involved in an official capacity. This is what makes your case so compelling. Judging from your ordeal, it is not difficult to imagine what is holding such people back.
Kurt Sonnenfeld: Actually, there are several other very smart and credible people blowing whistles, too. And they are being discredited and ignored. Some are being harassed and persecuted, as I am.
People are gripped by fear. Everybody knows that if you question US authority you will have problems in some way or another. At minimum you will be discredited and dehumanized. Most likely you’ll find yourself indicted for something completely unrelated, like tax evasion — or something even worse, as in my case. Look at what happened to Secret Service whistle-blower Abraham Bolden, for example, or to chess master Bobby Fischer after he showed his disdain for the US. There are countless other examples. In the past I asked friends and associates to speak out for me to counter all the lies being planted in the media, and all of them were terrified as to the ramifications to themselves and their families.
Voltaire Network: To what degree would your discoveries at Ground Zero expose the government’s involvement in those events? Are you familiar with the investigations that have been carried out by numerous scientists and qualified professionals which not only corroborate your own findings but, in some instances, far exceed them? Do you regard such people as “conspiracy nuts”?
Kurt Sonnenfeld: At the highest levels in Washington, DC, someone knew what was going to happen. They wanted a war so badly that they at least let it happen and most likely even helped it happen.
Sometimes it seems to me that the “nuts” are those who hold to what they’ve been told with an almost religious fervor despite all of the evidence to the contrary — the ones who won’t even consider that there was a conspiracy. There are so many anomalies to the “official” investigation that you can’t blame it on oversight or incompetence. I am familiar with the scientists and qualified professionals to whom you refer, and their findings are convincing, credible, and presented according to scientific protocol — in stark contrast to the findings of the “official” investigation. In addition, numerous intelligence agents and government officials have now come forward with their very informed opinions that the 911 Commission was a farce at best or a cover-up at worst. My experience at Ground Zero is but one more piece of the puzzle.
Voltaire Network: Those events are nearly 8 years behind us. Do you consider that uncovering the truth about 9/11 continues to be an important objective? Why?
Kurt Sonnenfeld: It is of absolute importance. And it will be equally as important in 10 years, or even 50 years if the truth still has not been exposed. It is an important objective because, at this point in history, many people are too credulous to whatever “authority” tells them and too willing to follow. People in a state of shock seek guidance. People who are afraid are manipulable. And being able to manipulate the masses results in unimaginable benefits to a lot of very rich and very powerful people. War is incredibly expensive, but the money has to go somewhere. War is very profitable for the very few. And somehow their sons always end up in Washington DC, making the decisions and writing the budgets, while the sons of the poor and the poorly-connected always end up on the enemy lines, taking their orders and fighting their battles. The enormous black-budget of the US Department of Defense represents an unlimited money machine for the military-industrial complex, figuring in the multi-trillions of dollars, and it will continue to be so until the masses wake up, recuperate their skepticism and demand accountability. Wars (and false pretexts for war) will not cease until the people realize the true motive of war and stop believing “official” explanations.
Voltaire Network: What is referred to as the 9/11 Truth Movement, has been asking for a new, independent investigation into those events. Do you think that the Obama Administration holds out some hope in this respect?
Kurt Sonnenfeld: I really hope so, but I’m skeptical. Why would the leadership of any established government willingly undertake any action that would result in a serious compromise to their authority? They will prefer to maintain the status quo and leave the things the way they are. The conductor of the train has been changed, but has the train changed its course? I doubt it. The push has to come from the public, not only domestically, but internationally, like your group is doing.
Voltaire Network: A number of human rights and activist groups are supporting your plight, not least Peace Nobel Prize winner Adolfo Pérez Esquivel. How have the Argentinean people in general responded to your situation?
Kurt Sonnenfeld: With an incredible outpouring of support. The military dictatorship is still fresh in the collective memory of most of the people here, along with the knowledge that the dictatorship (along with the other South American dictatorships at the time) was backed by the CIA, directed at the time by George Bush Senior. They remember well the torture centers, the secret prisons, the thousands of people “disappeared” for their opinions, the living in daily fear. They know that the United States today will do the same thing if they consider it beneficial, that they will invade a country to achieve their political and economic interests and then manipulate the media with fabricated “causus belli” to justify their conquests.
- Kurt Sonnenfeld with Adolfo Pérez Esquivel, Nobel Peace Prize 1980
My family and I are honored to have Adolfo Pérez Esquiveland his advisors at Servicio de Paz y Justicia (SERPAJ) among our dearest friends. We have worked together on many causes, including the rights of refugees, the rights of women, for children without families and children with HIV/AIDS. We are also honored to have the support of the Abuelas de Plaza de Mayo; Madres de Plaza de Mayo, Línea Fundadora; Centro de Estudios Legales y Sociales (CELS); Asamblea Permanente de Derechos Humanos (APDH); Familiares de Detenidos y Desaparecidos por Razones Políticas; Asociación de Mujeres, Migrantes y Refugiados Argentina (AMUMRA); Comisión de Derechos Humanos de la Honorable Cámara de Diputados de la Provincia de Buenos Aires; Secretaría de Derechos Humanos de la Nación; and the Programa Nacional Anti-Impunidad. On an international level, Amicus Curiae have been presented in our favor by REPRIEVE of Great Britain, along with the collaboration of NIZKOR of Spain and Belgium. In addition, my wife, Paula, and I have been received in the Congress by La Comisión de Derechos Humanos y Garantías de la Honorable Cámara de Diputados de La Nación.
Voltaire Network: As we said, deciding to write this book and to go public was a huge step. What pushed you to do it?
Kurt Sonnenfeld: To save my family. And to let the world know that things are not what they seem.
Voltaire Network: Last but not least: what will you do with your tapes?
Kurt Sonnenfeld: I am convinced that my tapes reveal many more anomalies than I am capable of recognizing given my limited qualifications. I will therefore cooperate in any way that I can with serious and reliable experts in a common endeavour to expose the truth.
Voltaire Network: Thank you very much !
He will undoubtedly face the same fate as his wife. And you people remain loyal to this barbarism. Americans are asleep and don’t even care. So, they deserve exactly what they get. People do after-all get the government and leaders they deserve. You ain’t seen nothing yet, once these rabid fascist bastards feel like they have total control, the American Nightmare will become a reality. It don’t take rocket science to figure that out. Maybe I ought to go into exile too, I’m not sure I want to be part of this anymore.
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vueflix Reply:
June 23rd, 2009 at 8:58 pm
Alert, Inform, Educate, Act!
join the Activist Media
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Johan Niklasson Reply:
August 22nd, 2009 at 8:57 am
URGENT
Jane Burgermeister’s new web site:
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Mike Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 5:52 am
Maybe you missed the anti-war demonstrations. I demonstrated against the Iraq war, I read a lot of books about politics, and encouraged others to read including specific titles and authors. Maybe you missed the public outcry about the electronic voting abnormalities. You might have noticed that Ron Paul couldn’t get any major media coverage. And unfortunately the last time I wrote in Ron Paul while voting for president all it did was help Bush get re-elected (ugh). A lot of Americans are not asleep, but as Ron Paul said when talking about how the Income Tax we never ratified into law, “they have more guns than we do”. So I’d just like to hear it from you, Robert, what exactly is it the Americans should do? Write to a Congress member? Most of them work for whoever pays them the most money. I’d like to hear your suggestions Robert, anyone can criticize.
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Shane Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 10:14 am
Demonstrations are a joke and only serve to delay the inevitible. Why don’t you sissies buy a gun and prepare for what’s coming, your families will thank you. The feds are preparing by demonizing the patriots of this nation, the lines are being drawn. I suggest you ready the nooses and learn to take care of yourselves, it’s going to be a long and bumpy ride.
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Dark Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
Jee, why do you think they’re demonizing “the patriot movement” when all you guys do is talk about buying guns, nooses and you do nothing but drive a dividing wedge in the fabric of the country.
The “Patriots” are nothing but sour grapes, delusional, ex-army, Bush loving rednecks looking for an excuse to start civil war. Can’t handle the fact that people were sick and tired of Bush? A black man in power too much for your deep south tendencies? You probably think that Global warming is a wacked out “librul” conspiracy too.
Get bent!
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dba Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 4:00 pm
What an idiot you are ! Most of us knew too much to vote for Bush the first time, let alone the second. You are sick fool.
dba Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 4:02 pm
…and by the way, we are as far north in the US as is possible.
meanjean Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Dark, you are sadly misinformed. Obama is nothing but an Iluminati sock-puppet who will do his masters’ bidding as they see fit. They will use his office for another false flag event that will usher in their long awaited New World Order. Wake up and look at the evidence that is all around you. By the way, I am a Southern Lady.
MadMac Reply:
June 25th, 2009 at 12:13 pm
U Suk Dark.
You probably think that Global warming is a wacked out “librul” conspiracy too.
Call it what you want but I’ll call it a bunch of BS! The Sun is hotter, hence the Earth is hotter.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfHW7KR33IQ
Al Gore sued by over 30.000 Scientists for Global Warming fraud / John Coleman
coldarkstare Reply:
June 25th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
you are way to emotionaliy invested in obama therefor any criticism only offends. get past your bush bashing and name calling and look into what is being done currently, mind you there is nothing wrong with lookn back to the past administation and calling them on what theyve done,but come to the present, unless you like socialist and communist ideals and goverment. oh btw yes global warming is bull shit !.youve been indoctrinated, look into the science and evidence ,dont goto the mainstream media its an agenda for money ,power and control. you do your home work and really look into it , but hell you maybe part of the whole movement for all i know, but i say seek , question and prepare while you enjoy obama and the global warming crysis.
Kerston Reply:
June 26th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Dark, I had the same feelings about Bush and would not vote Mccain. Who has sour grapes? Maybe You? From something long ago? Non of what you say is true of me and others I know. Our government has long been gripping us tighter into tyrany. I don’t go for the liberal ,left, right bs. How lazy minded. If you think liberty being lost has anything to do with the color of the president(puppet) or any political party you are in a coma. Tell me about change? Besides the speed of the progress of tyrany. Tell me! You’ll have plenty of time waiting for your doctor visit with socialized medicine and waiting in bread lines.
wheelin1 Reply:
July 6th, 2009 at 12:35 am
Patriots you moron are what this country was founded on!! How come whenever anyone criticizes Obama about the crappy way he’s running this country, we’re considered a racist or it’s a race thing. I don’t really care what color our President is as long as he is eligible to be President first off and he abides by the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Obama hates this country and proves it everyday by trying to destroy it.
Nikki Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
Why-leave?Why-not-give-your-life-like
most-people-to-fight-for-victory?
George-Washington-thought-he-was-close
to-total-defeat-at-Valley-Forge,but-had-faith!
God-established-this-country,and-God-will
re-establish-it.Damn-the-torpedoes,hurricanes,
corruption,and-eventual-invasion,and
full-speed-ahead!
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Roger Ramjet Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 12:11 pm
God established this country? Are you crazy? 25 million American indians were slaughtered over the period of 100 years to secure your God’s Belssings for you. so unless you support a genocidal maniac like ‘God’ , keep your fairy tales to yourself.
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gita Reply:
June 25th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Not all Americans are unaware. The first thing that came out my mouth and that of my friends was that 9/11 was planned by you know who. Many Americans have seen how the previous administration was going down the road of facism, and we were doing what we could. It’s still not over.
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EriktheRed Reply:
June 28th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
I agree. the shit is hitting the fan. There’s so much conspiracy you cant keep up with it all. Its the demonic race pushing NWO which is demonic tyranny.
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Dean Jackson Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 6:44 am
Another lie about 9/11 is that NORAD didn’t monitor American airspace.
Well, in 1997 NORAD said they insured, “Aircraft flying over our air space are monitored seven days a week, 24 hours a day.”
In 2004 the Air Force contradictorily said, “Before 2001, 1st Air Force was charged with keeping an eye on the nation’s borders, usually looking for threats in the form of Russian aircraft skirting too close for comfort to the mainland. In those few hours, the command’s mission went from looking outward to looking inward.”
See the 5 articles on NORAD at http://www.DNotice.org
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Archie Reply:
June 29th, 2009 at 6:54 am
There are many many documented lies in connection with the official conspiracy theory. The only choice one has to make is which conspiracy theory one wants to believe
Long ago, it was proven in several substantive ways that the official conspiracy theory cannot possibly be true. That, and that alone, should be all the ammunition we need for a new investigation.
I personally think that weasel Norman Minetta lied when he told his story about “its 50 miles out, its 20 miles out” etc… and Cheney scolding the young military person who kept coming in the room.
As for “planes”, 99 percent of every thing uttered to us about the planes is FALSE. There may have been a few planes flying near the official target sites to destract or create rabbit trails, but no big Boeings crashed into any buildings on 9-11, so that makes all the b.s. about the “terrorists” and the “hijackers” collosal lies as well.
None of knows for sure what happened, and some say maybe we should not talk about the planes at all, but I think we need to speak out as much truth based on what littled data and evidence we do have as we can.
Naturally when we get to talking about 9-11 in detail, the original story posted about this guy Sonnefeld looks more crookeder and more crookeder than a dog’s hind leg.
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the dave Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 5:17 am
This is true and correct. If you’d like updates search paoweb dot com and google Mike Quinsey.
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Mike Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
This is correct of you are in need of a shrink…
I find it ridiculous that you have a name for our universe. What was it Orvonton? LoL Megatron rules!
Back to the topic.. I would love to see the pics this man took!
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All should read a book written years ago by the VERY popular and world known novelist Jack London. The book: The Iron Heel. Summary: The Oligarchs (the super rich, the Elites as I call them) have taken over America (in 1912) and the world (now how would Jack know this in his day?). After a number a unsuccessful revolutions by the suppressed workers – no middle class – AND 400 years the tyrannical rulers are overthrown. Sound familiar?
This is where we are NOW. The Oligarchs have taken over but now want to rule in the “open” by destroying most of civilization. Whats left of mankind will be ruled with an “Iron Heel.” For their own good, of course! What was left out is HOW God will intervene now that “they” will try to destroy HIS plan for HIS SON! The fireworks are about to begin, get your seat to watch. Oh, Yes, You may be involved against your wishes!
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It is not Americans who are paying the price but innocent Iraqis and Afghanis who are paying and being murdered and tortured by the 100,000’s.
Destroy All Zionist Occupied Governments!!!
All US Troops and Politicians should be tried, convicted and possibly executed for their war crimes and crimes against humanity.
US Troops are the biggest brain dead fascist murders and should not be spared for their crimes against humanity. Down to the Privates who follow ILLEGAL orders.
As a former US Marine, I piss on any dead US Troop who has invaded another country and I support all humans in fighting a foreign invader or occupier. Come invade my home and it will be your last. My Corps is 100% full of war criminals.
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DR. Andrew Hanson Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 12:03 pm
you are in need of immediate Psychiatric counselling. I doubt that you were a marine. you could not possibly pass the psyche test. get some help.
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charles kafka Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
at least an ex-marine would know enough to hold his tongue lol
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Michael Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Former Marine, thank you for stating it like it is. I can’t understand how marines can agree to go to other countries and fight illegal wars. I though marines were the most patriotic people. They should refuse to be in these illegal wars. Come on marines! The people need your leadership. Stop following these politicians who are using you.
wheelin1 Reply:
July 6th, 2009 at 12:42 am
As an ex-Marine myself the answer to that is YES you would!! You also obey a direct order from your superiors or you get court marshalled…duh!! I to have doubts as him being in the military at all, either that or he was section 8 outa there!! Marines don’t talk shit like that about the Marine Corps much less all Marines from the top all the way down to the privates…you would have gotten your ass kicked if you had!!
father time Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
former marine,…You are one of the few who got it right! I agree 100%- I dont wanna wait for GOD to handle this… we can take care of it—give them their own medicine!!!–FRY THE DEMONIC WAR CRIMINAL BASTARDS!!! GOD can sift the ashes for any trace of good. LONG LIVE THE COMING REVOLUTION!!!
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pete schnapp Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
A BREATH OF FRESH AIR!!
Thanks for your honesty
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It is time to dismantle the Pentagon, all of it.
Go after these corporate generals who have built this military aristocracy for their corporate masters and hoodwink people into ‘volunteering’ for the military as ‘patriots’ and to seek ‘benefits’ taking advantage of their natural tribal instincts.
End it now, right now. All military are brain dead corporatized pharma inoculated whores. Military officers have allegiance to nothing by their careers and their government procured checks.Check your coded DD214’s, Vets, you’ve been economically raped and we’ve got the proof.
If you are ex-military it is time to gear up, not for America or patriotism, but for vengeance that has no pity.
Nex ut tyrannus.
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America will NEVER FALL!! Are Troops are not murderers and we don’t know shit. These people torture and rape the inocent, they get off on human suffering and they kill for entertainement. Maybe you scumbag traitor cowards should go live there and see how wonderful it is. Know what you are talking about before you sell out your country Marine.
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Matt Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 6:07 am
America already HAS failed. You poor delusional soul. You think yourself a patriot? A patriot is one who defends his/her country. A patriot is NOT someone who blindly follows the alleged leaders. A patriot questions. A patriot ensures that power is not abused. A patriot puts country first and fights any attempts by elected rulers to become despotic and above the law. When was the last time you did any of these patriotic acts? Your country HAS failed. It is bankrupt; both morally and financially. Freedom does not come at the end of a barrel. Freedom is found in the actions and the hearts of the men and women who are the true sovereigns.
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Philip Lundquist Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 9:03 am
it’s been nearly 40 years since my military (Army) service, but I still remember that last war-based-upon-a-pack-of-lies, and how through COINTELPRO the FBI and police raped the American people’s constitutional rights to dissent. Now, the genocidal pieces of shit running the USA are adioactively contaminating the entire world through the use of depleted uranium weaponry. Add to this the deliberate tampering with the environment, food supply, and monetary system…..and you come up with a sickening conspiracy which should be met with EVERY available means of resistance.
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Maya Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 10:29 am
Let’s not forget the CDC and FDA poisoning a whole generation with mercury-based vaccines causing a huge increase in autism and other learning disorders. Eli Lilly, the manufacturers of Thermisol knew how poisonous this stuff was by hid their studies from the public. One cannot but help wonder if they were working on a time line to dumb down and make sick the generation that can take on the New World Order.
father time Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
mark, I’ll pray for you and all who think like you,this country was never the shing beacon it was supposed to be. We have always backed tyrannical leaders over the people who need help. This IS ALL ABOUT USHERING IN SATAN AS RULER-LIKE IT OR NOT! As we have seen time and time again throughout our history, ignorance will always fall victim to the polished-up bullshit fed to them by “the elite”.Father please lift the veil of blindness from our people!!!
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Roger Ramjet Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
Satan is an invention of the catholic church during the 10 century. Do some homework.
match Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 7:05 am
Who TF are you talking to a marine like that? Turn off Faux news and cart yer SUV lovin’ ass to the recruitment center so _you_ can see how wonderful it is.
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Shane Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 10:56 am
Get back on the short bus, and don’t forget your drool cup you retarded bastard.
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father time Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
One more thing Mark, Our country sold US OUT!!!! And who is torturing and killing innocents? Over 1 million Iraqis already-why??? OIL!!!!! Quit believing all that those asses in d.c. tell you. (unless you dig bein a blind sheep being led to the slaughter.
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When we witnessed the Constitution being trashed at every turn in the last 16 years, we should have considered to what ends.
Alas, people, these evil cockroaches are a very small minority, very small.
And as regards the first commenter, Jesus says that the light doth not comprehend the darkness and the darkness doth not comprehend the light. The people are not sufficiently evil to comprehend the evil in 911, nor the governments aggressions against Iraq, Afghanistan or Iran, at least not the concept that they are all diabolically planned.
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[...] of the government’s account of the 9/11 events. Below is an exclusive interview by Voltairenet. full story Share and [...]
What interesting to me is your (our) need need for an official investigation to reveal the truth.If JFK’s official investigation didn’t tell us something is very rotten in the state of Denmark’ nothing will.
The west is going off the rails and its only going to be those people that can put the puzzle together by logic and suspicion (without loosing there balance) that can know the truth.The further these things recede into history the more apparent becomes the plan.As the Romans used to say Cui Bono is the beginning of such an investigation-WHO BENEFITS?In this case with hindsight there are many benefactors and the success of this operation will only encourage these crooks.My only advice to you all out there is to refuse any war that is not in genuine self defense.This closes down the main avenue of manipulation and misery.Good luck and all that.
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This is an interesting story, but something did not quite “gel” when I read it. Somehow, as they say, the story does not “smell right.”
When did his first wife commit suicide. Before or after 9-11?
At least as far as this article is concerned, the questions and suspicions that Mr. Sonnenfeld alludes to are extremely vague. Maybe his book gets more specific. But the ops who pursued him and caused him to permanently leave the USA are implied to have had strong concerns about what Mr. S had evidence of and how incriminating that evidence was.
I find this remark of Mr. S quite curious.
“Kurt Sonnenfeld: At the highest levels in Washington, DC, someone knew what was going to happen. They wanted a war so badly that they at least let it happen and most likely even helped it happen.”
The choices Mr. S. lays out are not the choices of most of the people who have pursued 9-11 truth to any substantive extent.
Choice 1 — Someone at the top knew in advance (foreknowledge) what was going to happen. We all know foreknowledge alone is no longer the full truth or solution.
Choice 2 – LIHOP Let it happen on purpose. This stance has been throroughly discredited. It implies that the thing, the “attack”, that “happned” was going to happen due to the planning and action of some “terrorists” and some insiders just stood out of the way and did not take efforts to stop the terrorists and their plans (let it happen.) That dog won’t hunt and we know that.
Choice 3 MIHOP Made it happen on purpose. “most likely even helped it happen.” Just letting it happen or “looking the other way” is already a passive but proactive “making” it happen. There really is no difference between LIHOP and MIHOP in my opinion. Sins of omission are just as much sins as sins of commission.
But both the LIHOP and MIHOP “choices” imply the “it happen” idea. The thing that happened was separate and distinct and something planned and carried forward by real terrorists.
None of Mr. S’s choices include the only real “choice”, that the secret USA top operatives planned and executted the entire operation from start to finish.
Another thing that did not make sense to me was that Mr. S’s REASON for his main claim, that Building 6 vault had to have its contents removed before “the attacks”, does not look like a solid logical reason to me and I do not accept it. He said “and the vault was large enough, 15 meters by 15 meters by my estimate, to necessitate at least a big truck to carry out its contents. ” Why do the contents of the vault have to be removed by a truck that is the size of the entire vault? Why could not smaller trucks that would not have been bloced by all the emergency vehicales around have carried out the contents in separaate loads or trips or vehicles?
I have learned over the years in studying how the CIA operates that they have the full capability of setting up people and stories like this in great detail and setting up complex “legends” for a designated person (remember “Lee Harvey McVeigh”) to throw people off the trail. Col. Craig Roberts has elaborated on this in detail.
Another thing I did not like about the story was the “plane parts” bit. Yes, there was evidence that some rediculous (non big Boeing) plane parts were “discovered near Ground Zero, but Mr. S is deliberately vague. I think he is intending to imply that real planes did hit the towers but that they were small planes that matched the parts and not big Boeings as the official story goes. Mr. S. does not at all in this article allude to the obvious “plannted” or “salted” nature of the found plane parts.
I am not a peson caught up in the anti-Zionist thinking, but people at this network generally tend to be and I find it odd that no one has mentioned that Mr. Sonnenfeld has a Jewish name and probably would describe himself as “a Jew.”
There are many other things about this story that only cause me to question its veracity.
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Clue-full in NY Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 8:54 pm
Well..a good reply. Thank you Archie.
This guy smells of CIA psy-op all over!
Airplane parts including rubber tires found in a place where steel furniture was pulverized?
Association with a nobel peace laureate? Everyone knows that these nobel prize recipients are mostly intelligence operatives.
Connection to a large number of politically-connected organizations? We all know who are the experts at setting up political organizations.
Aren’t bureaucratically-appointed employees contracted under pain of death against disclosure?
Does FEMA lack the resources to outwit and capture their own photographers?
Isn’t Argentina the home of OSA (Organización Sionista Argentina) the Argentine Zionist Organization and a large jewish community?
Isn’t he jewish?
Has this Sonnenfeld guy seen the before-during-and-after raw footage from NY channel 1 and channel 4 news helicopters where the explosions on the second tower are clearly seen without any airplane nearby?
Well, I’m not holding my breath waiting for these answers. I’m too busy packing so I can leave. We New Yorkers know better.
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father time Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
havent seen the footage from ny1 and 4. can you get a link to me?
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Clue-full in NY Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 7:50 am
It’s taking me a while to dig’em up…be right back.
Clue-full in NY Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 9:23 am
/watch?v=60KPOhRgb2Q NBC no plane explosion. Title: “Second plane hit, NBC,
9/11, 09:28″
watch?v=sElG-J3RlEs Title: “9/11 No Plane Manifesto – 100% Proof – Part1″
Check 7:16 minutes into the film. Note the missing plane in the upper left corner inbox that’s
showing the same chronology of the explosion as the bottom pane view. More telling is at 7:18, upper right corner inbox where no plane is seen from this classic 9/11 angle.
/watch?v=-1Kmjh-cN8Q Title: “No Planes Sickness” Check 1:03 minutes into the
video for The hole that wasn’t there.
/watch?v=mWcp2rB_i8k Title: “NO PLANE HIT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER 9/11″
/watch?v=VfH5ytKNGC4
I couldn’t get the whole url in the message because of the system. Just add youtube.com to the link.
NY1 channel footage has proven tough to dig up. It was easily available in the past. But, you can research “no plane hit wtc 9/11″ and get a multitude of leads.
Happy Hunting!
Clue-full in NY Reply:
June 30th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
youtube.com + /watch?v=60KPOhRgb2Q
youtube.com + /watch?v=sElG-J3RlEs
youtube.com + /watch?v=-1Kmjh-cN8Q
youtube.com + /watch?v=mWcp2rB_i8k
youtube.com + /watch?v=VfH5ytKNGC4
Clue-full in NY Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 1:48 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZryf1sZBQc
Clue-full in NY Reply:
July 9th, 2009 at 7:23 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOPx8bs_XWE
pandira Reply:
June 26th, 2009 at 8:23 am
notice that his “solution” requires an “International push” for a domestic event. Much of the truth movement seems to steer toward an international solution…..WHY?
“The conductor of the train has been changed, but has the train changed its course? I doubt it. The push has to come from the public, not only domestically, but internationally, like your group is doing.”
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Archie Reply:
June 26th, 2009 at 8:35 am
Well, I always recognized those in the truth movement who always seemed to be pushing for an “international” solution, an international team to conduct a new investigation.
That is the way this whole
problem, reaction, solution, dialectic always works. Have us begging for the “final solution.”
Many of the people who helped us ask the right questions about 9-11 and think clearly and try to piece together what we think is the best explanation of what happened are academics and former top bereaucrats and military (Patriots question 9-11) and many of them are just find and dandy happy with a one world government, so an international new investigation of 9-11 suits them just fine.
Dr. Morgan Reynolds (nomoregames.net) is the only academic type I know of who does not fall into that category. He has never pointed toward and international investigation.
Dr. David Ray Griffin and most of the Democrats in the truth movement think the only real solution is a one world government, new world order.
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pandira Reply:
June 26th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Yes, that’s what I’ve realized since I heard Griffin call for a “global Democracy”. It is the perfect usage of the Hegelian Dialectic. Glad to see that you understand that. It seems many are falling into the trap. The New World Order typically owns both sides of every important issue or movement. I’m not sure that there is a solution to this conflagration.
Messenger Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 5:12 am
Yes,and the whole idea of a truth movement is in using the Hegelian Dialectic in another manner.To have controlled opposition in the alternative media.Then bring in the New Age gurus explaining reality to the sheeple renaming it P-R-S ala Icke and telling us how to brak free of the matrix,which is old gnostic teachings.It’s the same in politics.Those on the so-called right are no different than the left beyonf the surface.Same with the mainstream media.It has nothing to do with vibratory levels.For if that were true then the new age gurus like Icke,Tsarion,Maxwell,et all would change it for humanity.It’s simply a dialectical shell game with spiritual dynamics.THen you have posers like Alex Jones giving Christianity a bad name by promoting them.IHe’s as bad as any zionist televangelist..All these goups form cults but parrot the phrase left-right paradigm and cointelpro and psy ops so that the sheeple believe they are independent and critical thinkers.How the new agers love the word paradigm and the term paradigm shift and christ-consciousness.And Bullhorn Jones sounds more and more like an occultist and new ager every year,not to mention a gatekeeping moneygrubber.And yet,all these patriot radio networks do not dare expose him.Oracle does,but they are rife with new agers,although they deny the moniker.William Cooper had Alex and these NWO shills pegged long before his assassination.The Rense affair and now the one with an ex-employee is more grist for the mill.Some faction off and start their own forums and mini-truth movements.But they have undying gratitude for their former idol.It’s sickening.It was alot harder researching Illuminism prior to the internet era.One had to go to libraries and order books and newsletters.Now there realy is no excuse to be a blind follower of anyone.The guests on these shows are more often than not former military or government employees or operatives,and even in AJ’s film on Barry he has the Leftist Tarpley,a regular guest.He also leaves out the fact that Barry is a usurper.I knew he would,because he paid lip service to the eligibility issue prior to the occult dual inauguration of Barry.And promoting Paul and end the Fed is another scam.It’s too late.They end the Fed and we get a Global Fed.Reserve,just as we are getting a Global Gove and Religion to boot with the Verichip Mark of the Beast as icing on the cake.There’s a few good shows on some of these networks,but by and large they are all towing the party line.They play at being free and anti-globalist,but avoid the most important subjects of our day,and always defend the Grand Poobah of gatekeepers–Alex Jones.He started a panic over the Swine Flu pandemic and one caller was asking if he should head for the hills.Well,that is coming along with other events,but all the ytears of his fearmongering set the stage for him to direct the herd in any direction he is told to steer them.He also canceled an interview last week woth Jane Burgermeister,the Austrian with the lawsuit against Baxter,.Dr.Carley mentioned that on Drew Raines last week.She was shocked he backed down.Another person learning what many of us have known about AJ since he came out of the woodwork years ago.
Archie Reply:
July 5th, 2009 at 6:16 am
Thank you, messenger, for your thoughtful insights. My comments and questions follow.
How right you are about having controlled opposition in the alternative media. People tend to think that there is this one big entity – the “alternative media” – and it is there only where you can get facts and truth and whole truth and no spin. Of course that is not quality thinking.
Each individual has to learn to sift and discern for themselves. I have always tried to avoid groups and groupieness. I do better with my own personal actions. One disgruntled Texas state representative or aid said to me as I was standing in front of the state captitol with my anti-toll road sign “Is that your sign or is somebody paying you to stand here with it?” I told him it was my sign and that I was an individual Texan American. The older type politicos seem to have nothing but vitriole. The bright young itellegient reporters and like seem to have had their brains washed and their minds closed for a very long time.
I know about these New Age types and though they often spout a lot of truth, their “truth” is tragically flawd and obviously so. I am a Christian and it is so amazing the way all the false Christian theologies are merging into one false religion with one fase gospel and one false god.
I like the way you tell about breaking free of the matrix is an old gnostic teaching. I called in to a good radio show on RBN that I like, Govern America, and told the host that the so called “Hegelian Dialectic” has been around long before Hegel. To me, the problem, reaction, solution idea is really nothing other than crafty manipulation and lying to others to achieve one’s own ends. The ends justify the means. Really is the worship of Satan if you get right down to it. Setting people up, “triangulation”, false flag terrorism, having the best enemies that money can buy: and all of that has been around since the dawn of man. Also creating or magnifying a problem is what good salesmen or marketers do. First they create the need and then they supply the product to meet that created need.
Alex has more and more left wing types and he appears to be going along with them in more and more ways under the guise of thumbing his nose at the phony left/right paradigm.
The only thing on a state or local level that seems to motivate people to take a hard look at what their “leaders” and government is doing to them is if they realize that their home and businesses or retirement funds are about to be stolen. They do not much care about issues like freedom. In fact, most of them are so afraid of not being sufficiently politically correct. I flew my flag upsidedown on my front lawn yesterday and got some really dirty looks from my neighbors.
I agree with you that Alex Jones started a panic over the HINI Swine,bird, human flu and then he quickly back off of that and told you how he all along advised a moderate cautious stance. What a joke.
But if you listen to the ads selling things on the alternative media, they are all using the end of our nation and our economy and our freedoms as the panic need that necessitates buying their goods to “protect our families” so we won’t have to stand in bread lines. These ads are selling crisis and fear and “truth” and they are hot selling items. I do not hear logic and balance and wise considerations being spoken about at all in many of their topics. It is always a telling us what they’re doing to us.
One of the most important subjects that no one wants to speak about is that we should have a plan that would be fair and would work were we able to kill the Fed. And we would need an interim plan while transitioning from the Federal Reserve system to another money system. You can’t just want to kill the Fed and not have a solid plan in place to smoothly move to. Another topic never spoken about is that it is possible for individual sovereign nation states to have fine trade relations with other indivdual nations without have national and international trading blocs and trade agreements. The trade agreements and trade routes (ala Trans Texas Corrdor) are the ways seeting us up to show that we live in a “global community” and that borders and national sovereighty are an impossibly bad joke. No, we can have enforced borders and trade relations without all the globalism claptrap, but for some reason non one wants to make that important point out in the “alternative media.”
Yes, we are to made to THINK we are independent critical thinkers. I try to think independently and critically but that always seems to lead me away from “leaders” and “talkers” of any stripe and away from joining any group. Also, I do not belong to a specific Christian denomination anymore. I cannot buy the packaged theology, and think that churches being nonprofit corporations of the state is most unChristian.
I still need to see more proof that Alex Jones is a gatekeeper, but need no more data about his being a moneygrubber.
“William Cooper had Alex and these NWO shills pegged long before his assassination.The Rense affair and now the one with an ex-employee is more grist for the mill.” I would like to read and learn more about this. archiek1@prodigy.net
Very interesting that he canceled an interview last week woth Jane Burgermeister,the Austrian with the lawsuit against Baxter. Very bad looking. But I still would need a tighter connection on many things to conclude that he is a gate keeper.
I have to thank Alex for presenting some good insights and partly waking me up.
I think Dr. Stan Moneith in his video “The Forbidden Secret” does a lot to expose real Illuminism and the crux of secret societies and ” the conspiracy.” These tenets of the ancient secret mystery religions have to be taught and handed down personally by word of mouth one teacher to the initiate. Professor Leo Strauss said and told his students Plato had two messages. He had one message for the common students. He had another message for the elite students because in every generation, there are a certain number of very outstanding elite people who are told the secret and are introduced to the mysteries.
From Pythagorous to Socrates, from Socrates to Plato (read Parable fo the Cave in Plato’s Republic), from Plato to Aristotle, and from Aristotle to Alexander the Great.
I believe the mysteries or secret teachings have to do with special powerful tricks to mold people’s minds and herd people into mind controlled groups, loving their delusions and chains.
I believe Truth is a Person and that Person’s sacrific is my only hope here in this world and then in the next. We try to find truth and act rightly based on truth, but finding real truth and right principles is shunned by this world system and shunned by most people. It is the poor and weak in our society, the cast out ones, who are on the right track. Only God can get us on the right track. Love God with your whole heart and He will show you the way.
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The jack-boots are tromping in the mud, that was made from innocent blood. Internment camps are far and near, the worst has yet to happen here. The children of the damned will fight to keep us all devoid of light. The babies snatched from mother’s breast, will have a dagger through their chest. Those who rise to stage a fight will disappear into the night. Complacent masses with the flu, cannot stand up to end the coup. They wish for God with all their might, to come and stand for them and fight. God cannot hear the cries, just another of their lies. Money has replaced this God, and will never spare the rod. America is so perplexed, beware the rest of you, you’re next.
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You guys are something. You talk about patriotism and Zionists (LOL!), and you wave this weirdo around as “proof.”
He’s a cameraman, that’s the hook, yet no video clips? No TV special? You all just eat up what anyone says, as long as it’s anit-american. This guy was supposedly THERE, and all we get are more hearsay stories. Any Joe can make this up and blather about it without evidence.
Look at that hilarious photo, of the guy in the bushes. LOL! You think the government staged the entire tragedy of 911, but you don’t for a moment think this bozo might have staged the photo of the stooge in the bushes with the camera!
Wake up and be American. It’s Johnny Jihad you need to fear, not the USA.
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Reality Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 10:16 am
Got any more good bigot buzzwords? Johnny Jihad…. what a joke. I’m an American, and I do not fear ‘Johnny Jihad’. I’m an American, and I know a bit about physics. The official ‘theory’ is exactly that- a THEORY. And a bad one a that. Obviously, it has fooled you.
IQ test:
If you dropped a marble and a bowling ball from the top of the WTC North building (prior to 9-11-01) at the exact same time, which will hit the ground first? I bet I know what your answer will be….
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GREG Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 6:54 pm
WERE THESE THE SAME JOHNNY JIHADS THAT COULDNT FLY A PIPER CUB
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Shane Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 11:00 am
Don is a turd muffin. I’m not even going to debate with you retarded F’ers anymore.
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Killumanatti Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 1:50 am
was it a camera?it looked like a slurpy to me,lol
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I work to the cause of Freedom every day, I walk around in 50 pounds of gear 13 hours a day and I didi my time in the U.S. Calvary. How dare anyone blame our Troops or think they have all of the answers?
I am not poor or delusional and I work with the best of the best who sweat and train every day. Do you really believe our forces would turn on their own or that they would forget what America is? Read Inside DELTA Force and try to discover what outstanding people we have behind the scene. I do not believe our Government has told us the truth and I understand we as a nation have been robbed but I also know that the defenders of Freedom are watching very carefully both in and outside the government. Together we can and will take back this country but the real targets have to be identified and taken out. For this to happen you really will need those you are tossing under the bus. Get the real facts and talk to some Marines, Special Forces Soldiers and government insiders. They are not blind and they are not stupid and they are not the enemy.
Don’t be so quick to judge, so quick to anger and to slow to understand.
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Shane Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Then stop sh*tting on the oath you took and arrest the F’ers. It’s time to put up or shut up. We civilians are done listening to excuses. If the armed forces of this nation are not derelict in their duty then I expect to see Obama and 90% of Congress in shackles by the end of the month. If not, then don’t cry when we accuse them of complicity.
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structuralengineer Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 11:40 am
I have no doubt that the majority of our military know what really happened on 9-11 and they know the difference between right and wrong too.
To the others that dont know either of the two, remember this:
“i was brainwashed into doing it” didnt work as a defense for the nazis either.
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jp Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
That’s putting him straight Shane…..God Bless you.
And God curse any goon who picks up a gun for the criminal government.
Time to wake up soldier…..WE are the people that you are supposed to protect. And WE are telling you NOW that you are fighting the wrong fight, for the wrong people, and it’s hurting US.
,,,oh, and the claim that you are the best is NOT your call !! Only a stupid, self-obsessed person goes around saying that they are the best. There-by disproving their own claim by fault of idiocy or shallow vanity.
Our day will come.
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Adrienne Reply:
June 25th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
I agree with these last 3 comments by jp, structuralengineer and shane. Sometimes I’m not sure on here who is yelling at who, and it seems like everybody’s angry, but I want to register my agreement with their views. I hate war and all its employees.
father time Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 2:23 pm
Mark we DO know the targets, just cant get to ‘em——-YET!!!!!
[Reply]
Mossad set the charges in the Towers. Mossad filmed it, start to finish. Mossad high fived, lit BIC lighters like a concert, so happy.
Netzenyahoo said “It is good, very good”. Sharon said “You keep talking about the Americans this, and the Americans, that, but I tell you, we control the Americans, and the Americans know it.”
Blackmail.
They even beat up GWB, that time he had the “pretzel” incident, and beat him again, and blamed it on Laura.
You see how they act? Everything is Russian, like “Homeland” Security” and all these “Czars”. Russian Bolchevik Zionists are alligned with the Russian mafia, and running Israel.
The “Urban Moving Systems” owned by Israeli Dominik Suter, moved an urban system, that day. They say it, straight out, and laugh in our face. They use Jews to hide behind.
They use religion to justify the theft, on a grand scale, like Silverstein, and Goldberg and Madoff.
Madoff sent 100 Billion to Tel Aviv, just before he “confessed”. Some say he funded 9/11.
Until we call it out, and arrest each one of these men, we won’t have our country back.
9/11 was a “velvet coup de etat” as Jesse Jackson said, at the time.
[Reply]
Pasquale Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
Exactly. I couldn’t have said it better.
[Reply]
father time Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
here here!! We gotta get this country back!! But how? “THEY” only understand violence and “THEY” have all the cool toys,what do we do?
[Reply]
I have always liked the thought: “Suppose they have a war and noone shows up to fight.”
[Reply]
Adrienne Reply:
June 25th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
Amen! Me, too. If only every mother taught her child not to kill!
[Reply]
I sincerely hope that’s true Mark. I really believe it is.
[Reply]
First thing’s first – Audit the Fed (viq HR 1207) then end puch to End the Fed.
Do not become distracted and overly angry. The pen is mightier than the sword and anger dims your wits. Learn to use the pen. The “United States” being a corporation and puppetted by the World Bank through the Fed then through the “United States” CEO “President N0bama” and the “Board of Directors” Senators is where we ALL need to put our focus.
We have all been duped that the “United States” is a country, synonymous with the “united States of America”…. Not so. And it is why this corporation can be so blatant with its actions, right under our noses. It even has its own “Constitution OF The United States” that is not “the Constitution for the united States of America” – the Constitution of our Founding Fathers.
Ending the Fed eventully ends our problems, at least those 98% since 1913 that have been caused by “The Creature from Jekyll Island” and its masters.
[Reply]
Are we becoming aware in sufficient numbers and fast enough of these diabolical and long term plans? The race is on.
[Reply]
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul
Date: June 23, 2009 12:31:00 PM EDT
To: Paul Isaac
Subject: Fwd: 911 My Research
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul
Date: June 16, 2009 7:02:58 PM EDT
To: wearechange latino
Subject: Fwd: 911 My Research
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul
Date: June 16, 2009 8:29:43 AM EDT
To: Paul Isaac
Subject: Fwd: 911
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul
Date: June 12, 2009 10:06:17 AM EDT
To: Brian Johnson
Subject: Fwd: 911
Begin forwarded message:
From: nyccrashcrew@yahoo.com
Date: June 11, 2009 3:39:02 PM EDT
To: nyccrashcrew@yahoo.com
Subject: 911
Reply-To:nyccrashcrew@yahoo.com
PICTURE TAKEN OF PAUL ISAAC AND MIKE DELANEY AT WTC GROUND ZERO,NEW YORK, NY 9/11/2007
Paul is going to be presenting evidence of 9/11 to the courts and would like your support if you are in the Brooklyn area. This will be going on at the Brooklyn Circuit Court December 7th, 2007. He requests that people come to support him in his efforts to obtain justice for 9/11/01. Here is some of the evidence he will be presenting:
More Unanswered Questions re: Keyspan Tanks
Paul Isaac is an Auxiliary Fireman and first responder.
He has spent an untold number of hours doing in-depth research compiling
many areas of evidence challenging the official account of 9/11.
The image below illustrates a parallel between the
demolition of the Keyspan Maspeth Holding Tanks in Queens, NY on
July 15th, just a few months before 9/11. Although explosives were
outlawed, somehow with the Giuliani administration in power, this
demolition was carried out even though the surrounding area was
residential. You can still see the Queens Gazette article from 7/18/01
here.
Also,
The height of the tanks is approximately the same
as the height from where Flight 175 struck the south tower and the
top of the building. The angle of the collapse of the South Tower
(see Image 2) was almost identical to the angle of the demolition-cased
collapse of the tanks (see Image 3). Also, the antenna from Tower
One came down in the same direction, into Tobin Plaza rather than
west towards the World Financial Centers. The demolition of the
tanks was planned and carried out by Controlled Demolition, Inc.
Isn’t it interesting that this company also was contracted to do
the cleanup after the Oklahoma City Bombing, then again for cleanup
of the World Trade Center towers? Also, see the Online Journal article
here
by Jerry Mazza.
It’s important to realize that pilots flying planes
into LaGuardia Airport used the Keyspan tanks
as markers on their approach route.
Career Army Officer Sues Cheney, Rumsfeld For 9/11 Complicity
April Gallop files suit for failure to warn people inside Pentagon despite advance knowledge, as well as prior knowledge and complicity in terror attacks
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, December 18, 2008
A career Army officer who was injured in the attack on the Pentagon on 9/11 is suing Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld for failing to issue a warning that American Airlines Flight 77 was about to hit the building despite receiving knowledge of its approach some 20 minutes in advance.
Retired Army officer April Gallop, a ranking specialist with top secret clearance who began working at the Pentagon in 2000, has also filed suit against US Air Force General Richard Myers, who was acting chairman of the joint chiefs on 9/11.
54. Similarly, defendant Rumsfeld — like the President himself, then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defendant Gen. Richard Myers and others — testified and said in public, repeatedly, that no one in the Government security apparatus ever imagined terrorists suicidally crashing planes into buildings. This claim was also absolutely false. In point of fact, the CIA, the NSA, the FAA and NORAD had planned and trained for just such a possibility. Indeed, the record shows training exercises involving such a potential attack had in fact been carried on at the Pentagon in October, 2000 and May, 2001, and that NORAD had begun planning in July, 2001, for a training exercise in which the premise would be that a hijacked airliner was crashed into the World Trade Center. The 9/11 Commission, however — with the same studied indifference it showed towards the Mineta testimony — failed even to mention these contradictions in its Report, let alone explain them away.
“For months, we had in place an exercise in which we’d drill on our responseto a bio/chem attack, specifically practicing for the distribution of medication. The planned date: Wednesday, september 12. We had stored much of the materials for THAT DRILL at pier 92. Pier 92 offered 125.000 square feet of open space and easy transportation to and from Ground Zero by way of boat and the Westside Highway. Moreover, Because IT WAS ALREADY IN USE BY THE MILITARY, the points of access were relatively easy to guard. Richie told me he’d pulled his OEM guys to start setting up pier 92 as a command center. My most optimistic expectation would have been that even a rudimentary replacement for the felled center at 7 world trade would be seven to ten days. By saturday morning, we held our fist meeting.”
Page 355
Leadership-Rudolph W Giuliani
“… the reason Pier 92 was selected as a command
center was because on the next day, on September 12,
Pier 92 was going to have a drill, it had hundreds of people here, from FEMA,
from the Federal Government, from the State, from the State
Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill
for biochemical attack. So that was gonna be the place they were going to
have the drill. The equipment was already there, so we were able to establish
a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three
times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade
Center. And it was from there that the
rest of the search and rescue effort was
completed.” Mayor Rudolph W Giuliani 911 Commission
Below we see the flattened tanks on the left, and
the complete demolition at Ground Zero. Also, below we see what
very much appears to be 2 different Osama Bin Ladins. Which one
are we supposed to believe was responsible for 9/11? If he indeed
did orchestrate 9/11, why isn’t this listed on the FBI web site’s
Most Wanted section? Why did an FBI official named Rex Tomb claim
“the FBI has no hard evidence connecting him to 9/11″?
Did you know Enron supplied gas to Keyspan? Did
you know Enron, which was being investigated by the Security and
Exchange Commission, had files destroyed in the collapse of WTC7?Did you know Keyspan was in a joint venture with Enron in 1998? Here’s an excerpt from a press release:
ENRON TO MANAGE GAS SUPPLY FOR BROOKLYN
UNION
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Friday, February 13, 1998
HOUSTON – KeySpan Energy Corporation and Enron Capital & Trade
Resources Corp. (ECT), a subsidiary of Enron Corp., today announced
an agreement whereby ECT will provide gas supply management services
for Brooklyn Union Gas, the primary subsidiary of KeySpan Energy.
Under the terms of this agreement, which is subject to approval
by New York Public Service Commission, ECT will assume responsibility
for managing Brooklyn Union’s interstate pipeline transportation,
gas supply and storage.
Wouldn’t a real investigation pursue
this trail and see where it leads?
The brochure cover below from a city publication prior
to 2000 shows a strange looking shadow on the north face of Tower
1 coming from 250 Broadway which stood next to WTC7. Paul noticed
this strange shadow, pointing out that the sun could not have caused
this due to the direction of its path. Why would an official city
document have this oddity? Could this signify something ominous?
Could this shadow be pointing towards the Keyspan Tanks? Note the
yellow line in the image below. These are questions Paul is calling
to our attention.
Also, did you know Keyspan got a baseball park built
under the company’s name? For more, click
here.
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul
Date: June 23, 2009 12:31:00 PM EDT
To: Paul Isaac
Subject: Fwd: 911 My Research
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul
Date: June 16, 2009 7:02:58 PM EDT
To: wearechange latino
Subject: Fwd: 911 My Research
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul
Date: June 16, 2009 8:29:43 AM EDT
To: Paul Isaac
Subject: Fwd: 911
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul
Date: June 12, 2009 10:06:17 AM EDT
To: Brian Johnson
Subject: Fwd: 911
Begin forwarded message:
From: nyccrashcrew@yahoo.com
Date: June 11, 2009 3:39:02 PM EDT
To: nyccrashcrew@yahoo.com
Subject: 911
Reply-To:nyccrashcrew@yahoo.com
PICTURE TAKEN OF PAUL ISAAC AND MIKE DELANEY AT WTC GROUND ZERO,NEW YORK, NY 9/11/2007
Paul is going to be presenting evidence of 9/11 to the courts and would like your support if you are in the Brooklyn area. This will be going on at the Brooklyn Circuit Court December 7th, 2007. He requests that people come to support him in his efforts to obtain justice for 9/11/01. Here is some of the evidence he will be presenting:
More Unanswered Questions re: Keyspan Tanks
Paul Isaac is an Auxiliary Fireman and first responder.
He has spent an untold number of hours doing in-depth research compiling
many areas of evidence challenging the official account of 9/11.
The image below illustrates a parallel between the
demolition of the Keyspan Maspeth Holding Tanks in Queens, NY on
July 15th, just a few months before 9/11. Although explosives were
outlawed, somehow with the Giuliani administration in power, this
demolition was carried out even though the surrounding area was
residential. You can still see the Queens Gazette article from 7/18/01
here.
Also,
The height of the tanks is approximately the same
as the height from where Flight 175 struck the south tower and the
top of the building. The angle of the collapse of the South Tower
(see Image 2) was almost identical to the angle of the demolition-cased
collapse of the tanks (see Image 3). Also, the antenna from Tower
One came down in the same direction, into Tobin Plaza rather than
west towards the World Financial Centers. The demolition of the
tanks was planned and carried out by Controlled Demolition, Inc.
Isn’t it interesting that this company also was contracted to do
the cleanup after the Oklahoma City Bombing, then again for cleanup
of the World Trade Center towers? Also, see the Online Journal article
here
by Jerry Mazza.
It’s important to realize that pilots flying planes
into LaGuardia Airport used the Keyspan tanks
as markers on their approach route.
Career Army Officer Sues Cheney, Rumsfeld For 9/11 Complicity
April Gallop files suit for failure to warn people inside Pentagon despite advance knowledge, as well as prior knowledge and complicity in terror attacks
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, December 18, 2008
A career Army officer who was injured in the attack on the Pentagon on 9/11 is suing Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld for failing to issue a warning that American Airlines Flight 77 was about to hit the building despite receiving knowledge of its approach some 20 minutes in advance.
Retired Army officer April Gallop, a ranking specialist with top secret clearance who began working at the Pentagon in 2000, has also filed suit against US Air Force General Richard Myers, who was acting chairman of the joint chiefs on 9/11.
54. Similarly, defendant Rumsfeld — like the President himself, then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defendant Gen. Richard Myers and others — testified and said in public, repeatedly, that no one in the Government security apparatus ever imagined terrorists suicidally crashing planes into buildings. This claim was also absolutely false. In point of fact, the CIA, the NSA, the FAA and NORAD had planned and trained for just such a possibility. Indeed, the record shows training exercises involving such a potential attack had in fact been carried on at the Pentagon in October, 2000 and May, 2001, and that NORAD had begun planning in July, 2001, for a training exercise in which the premise would be that a hijacked airliner was crashed into the World Trade Center. The 9/11 Commission, however — with the same studied indifference it showed towards the Mineta testimony — failed even to mention these contradictions in its Report, let alone explain them away.
“For months, we had in place an exercise in which we’d drill on our responseto a bio/chem attack, specifically practicing for the distribution of medication. The planned date: Wednesday, september 12. We had stored much of the materials for THAT DRILL at pier 92. Pier 92 offered 125.000 square feet of open space and easy transportation to and from Ground Zero by way of boat and the Westside Highway. Moreover, Because IT WAS ALREADY IN USE BY THE MILITARY, the points of access were relatively easy to guard. Richie told me he’d pulled his OEM guys to start setting up pier 92 as a command center. My most optimistic expectation would have been that even a rudimentary replacement for the felled center at 7 world trade would be seven to ten days. By saturday morning, we held our fist meeting.”
Page 355
Leadership-Rudolph W Giuliani
“… the reason Pier 92 was selected as a command
center was because on the next day, on September 12,
Pier 92 was going to have a drill, it had hundreds of people here, from FEMA,
from the Federal Government, from the State, from the State
Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill
for biochemical attack. So that was gonna be the place they were going to
have the drill. The equipment was already there, so we were able to establish
a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three
times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade
Center. And it was from there that the
rest of the search and rescue effort was
completed.” Mayor Rudolph W Giuliani 911 Commission
Below we see the flattened tanks on the left, and
the complete demolition at Ground Zero. Also, below we see what
very much appears to be 2 different Osama Bin Ladins. Which one
are we supposed to believe was responsible for 9/11? If he indeed
did orchestrate 9/11, why isn’t this listed on the FBI web site’s
Most Wanted section? Why did an FBI official named Rex Tomb claim
“the FBI has no hard evidence connecting him to 9/11″?
Did you know Enron supplied gas to Keyspan? Did
you know Enron, which was being investigated by the Security and
Exchange Commission, had files destroyed in the collapse of WTC7?Did you know Keyspan was in a joint venture with Enron in 1998? Here’s an excerpt from a press release:
ENRON TO MANAGE GAS SUPPLY FOR BROOKLYN
UNION
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Friday, February 13, 1998
HOUSTON – KeySpan Energy Corporation and Enron Capital & Trade
Resources Corp. (ECT), a subsidiary of Enron Corp., today announced
an agreement whereby ECT will provide gas supply management services
for Brooklyn Union Gas, the primary subsidiary of KeySpan Energy.
Under the terms of this agreement, which is subject to approval
by New York Public Service Commission, ECT will assume responsibility
for managing Brooklyn Union’s interstate pipeline transportation,
gas supply and storage.
Wouldn’t a real investigation pursue
this trail and see where it leads?
The brochure cover below from a city publication prior
to 2000 shows a strange looking shadow on the north face of Tower
1 coming from 250 Broadway which stood next to WTC7. Paul noticed
this strange shadow, pointing out that the sun could not have caused
this due to the direction of its path. Why would an official city
document have this oddity? Could this signify something ominous?
Could this shadow be pointing towards the Keyspan Tanks? Note the
yellow line in the image below. These are questions Paul is calling
to our attention.
Also, did you know Keyspan got a baseball park built
under the company’s name? For more, click
here.
.
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul
Date: June 23, 2009 12:31:00 PM EDT
To: Paul Isaac
Subject: Fwd: 911 My Research
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul
Date: June 16, 2009 7:02:58 PM EDT
To: wearechange latino
Subject: Fwd: 911 My Research
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul
Date: June 16, 2009 8:29:43 AM EDT
To: Paul Isaac
Subject: Fwd: 911
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul
Date: June 12, 2009 10:06:17 AM EDT
To: Brian Johnson
Subject: Fwd: 911
Begin forwarded message:
From: nyccrashcrew@yahoo.com
Date: June 11, 2009 3:39:02 PM EDT
To: nyccrashcrew@yahoo.com
Subject: 911
Reply-To:nyccrashcrew@yahoo.com
PICTURE TAKEN OF PAUL ISAAC AND MIKE DELANEY AT WTC GROUND ZERO,NEW YORK, NY 9/11/2007
Paul is going to be presenting evidence of 9/11 to the courts and would like your support if you are in the Brooklyn area. This will be going on at the Brooklyn Circuit Court December 7th, 2007. He requests that people come to support him in his efforts to obtain justice for 9/11/01. Here is some of the evidence he will be presenting:
More Unanswered Questions re: Keyspan Tanks
Paul Isaac is an Auxiliary Fireman and first responder.
He has spent an untold number of hours doing in-depth research compiling
many areas of evidence challenging the official account of 9/11.
The image below illustrates a parallel between the
demolition of the Keyspan Maspeth Holding Tanks in Queens, NY on
July 15th, just a few months before 9/11. Although explosives were
outlawed, somehow with the Giuliani administration in power, this
demolition was carried out even though the surrounding area was
residential. You can still see the Queens Gazette article from 7/18/01
here.
Also,
The height of the tanks is approximately the same
as the height from where Flight 175 struck the south tower and the
top of the building. The angle of the collapse of the South Tower
(see Image 2) was almost identical to the angle of the demolition-cased
collapse of the tanks (see Image 3). Also, the antenna from Tower
One came down in the same direction, into Tobin Plaza rather than
west towards the World Financial Centers. The demolition of the
tanks was planned and carried out by Controlled Demolition, Inc.
Isn’t it interesting that this company also was contracted to do
the cleanup after the Oklahoma City Bombing, then again for cleanup
of the World Trade Center towers? Also, see the Online Journal article
here
by Jerry Mazza.
It’s important to realize that pilots flying planes
into LaGuardia Airport used the Keyspan tanks
as markers on their approach route.
Career Army Officer Sues Cheney, Rumsfeld For 9/11 Complicity
April Gallop files suit for failure to warn people inside Pentagon despite advance knowledge, as well as prior knowledge and complicity in terror attacks
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, December 18, 2008
A career Army officer who was injured in the attack on the Pentagon on 9/11 is suing Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld for failing to issue a warning that American Airlines Flight 77 was about to hit the building despite receiving knowledge of its approach some 20 minutes in advance.
Retired Army officer April Gallop, a ranking specialist with top secret clearance who began working at the Pentagon in 2000, has also filed suit against US Air Force General Richard Myers, who was acting chairman of the joint chiefs on 9/11.
54. Similarly, defendant Rumsfeld — like the President himself, then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defendant Gen. Richard Myers and others — testified and said in public, repeatedly, that no one in the Government security apparatus ever imagined terrorists suicidally crashing planes into buildings. This claim was also absolutely false. In point of fact, the CIA, the NSA, the FAA and NORAD had planned and trained for just such a possibility. Indeed, the record shows training exercises involving such a potential attack had in fact been carried on at the Pentagon in October, 2000 and May, 2001, and that NORAD had begun planning in July, 2001, for a training exercise in which the premise would be that a hijacked airliner was crashed into the World Trade Center. The 9/11 Commission, however — with the same studied indifference it showed towards the Mineta testimony — failed even to mention these contradictions in its Report, let alone explain them away.
“For months, we had in place an exercise in which we’d drill on our responseto a bio/chem attack, specifically practicing for the distribution of medication. The planned date: Wednesday, september 12. We had stored much of the materials for THAT DRILL at pier 92. Pier 92 offered 125.000 square feet of open space and easy transportation to and from Ground Zero by way of boat and the Westside Highway. Moreover, Because IT WAS ALREADY IN USE BY THE MILITARY, the points of access were relatively easy to guard. Richie told me he’d pulled his OEM guys to start setting up pier 92 as a command center. My most optimistic expectation would have been that even a rudimentary replacement for the felled center at 7 world trade would be seven to ten days. By saturday morning, we held our fist meeting.”
Page 355
Leadership-Rudolph W Giuliani
“… the reason Pier 92 was selected as a command
center was because on the next day, on September 12,
Pier 92 was going to have a drill, it had hundreds of people here, from FEMA,
from the Federal Government, from the State, from the State
Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill
for biochemical attack. So that was gonna be the place they were going to
have the drill. The equipment was already there, so we were able to establish
a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three
times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade
Center. And it was from there that the
rest of the search and rescue effort was
completed.” Mayor Rudolph W Giuliani 911 Commission
Below we see the flattened tanks on the left, and
the complete demolition at Ground Zero. Also, below we see what
very much appears to be 2 different Osama Bin Ladins. Which one
are we supposed to believe was responsible for 9/11? If he indeed
did orchestrate 9/11, why isn’t this listed on the FBI web site’s
Most Wanted section? Why did an FBI official named Rex Tomb claim
“the FBI has no hard evidence connecting him to 9/11″?
Did you know Enron supplied gas to Keyspan? Did
you know Enron, which was being investigated by the Security and
Exchange Commission, had files destroyed in the collapse of WTC7?Did you know Keyspan was in a joint venture with Enron in 1998? Here’s an excerpt from a press release:
ENRON TO MANAGE GAS SUPPLY FOR BROOKLYN
UNION
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Friday, February 13, 1998
HOUSTON – KeySpan Energy Corporation and Enron Capital & Trade
Resources Corp. (ECT), a subsidiary of Enron Corp., today announced
an agreement whereby ECT will provide gas supply management services
for Brooklyn Union Gas, the primary subsidiary of KeySpan Energy.
Under the terms of this agreement, which is subject to approval
by New York Public Service Commission, ECT will assume responsibility
for managing Brooklyn Union’s interstate pipeline transportation,
gas supply and storage.
Wouldn’t a real investigation pursue
this trail and see where it leads?
The brochure cover below from a city publication prior
to 2000 shows a strange looking shadow on the north face of Tower
1 coming from 250 Broadway which stood next to WTC7. Paul noticed
this strange shadow, pointing out that the sun could not have caused
this due to the direction of its path. Why would an official city
document have this oddity? Could this signify something ominous?
Could this shadow be pointing towards the Keyspan Tanks? Note the
yellow line in the image below. These are questions Paul is calling
to our attention.
Also, did you know Keyspan got a baseball park built
under the company’s name? For more, click
here.
.
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul
Date: June 23, 2009 12:31:00 PM EDT
To: Paul Isaac
Subject: Fwd: 911 My Research
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul
Date: June 16, 2009 7:02:58 PM EDT
To: wearechange latino
Subject: Fwd: 911 My Research
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul
Date: June 16, 2009 8:29:43 AM EDT
To: Paul Isaac
Subject: Fwd: 911
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul
Date: June 12, 2009 10:06:17 AM EDT
To: Brian Johnson
Subject: Fwd: 911
Begin forwarded message:
From: nyccrashcrew@yahoo.com
Date: June 11, 2009 3:39:02 PM EDT
To: nyccrashcrew@yahoo.com
Subject: 911
Reply-To:nyccrashcrew@yahoo.com
PICTURE TAKEN OF PAUL ISAAC AND MIKE DELANEY AT WTC GROUND ZERO,NEW YORK, NY 9/11/2007
Paul is going to be presenting evidence of 9/11 to the courts and would like your support if you are in the Brooklyn area. This will be going on at the Brooklyn Circuit Court December 7th, 2007. He requests that people come to support him in his efforts to obtain justice for 9/11/01. Here is some of the evidence he will be presenting:
More Unanswered Questions re: Keyspan Tanks
Paul Isaac is an Auxiliary Fireman and first responder.
He has spent an untold number of hours doing in-depth research compiling
many areas of evidence challenging the official account of 9/11.
The image below illustrates a parallel between the
demolition of the Keyspan Maspeth Holding Tanks in Queens, NY on
July 15th, just a few months before 9/11. Although explosives were
outlawed, somehow with the Giuliani administration in power, this
demolition was carried out even though the surrounding area was
residential. You can still see the Queens Gazette article from 7/18/01
here.
Also,
The height of the tanks is approximately the same
as the height from where Flight 175 struck the south tower and the
top of the building. The angle of the collapse of the South Tower
(see Image 2) was almost identical to the angle of the demolition-cased
collapse of the tanks (see Image 3). Also, the antenna from Tower
One came down in the same direction, into Tobin Plaza rather than
west towards the World Financial Centers. The demolition of the
tanks was planned and carried out by Controlled Demolition, Inc.
Isn’t it interesting that this company also was contracted to do
the cleanup after the Oklahoma City Bombing, then again for cleanup
of the World Trade Center towers? Also, see the Online Journal article
here
by Jerry Mazza.
It’s important to realize that pilots flying planes
into LaGuardia Airport used the Keyspan tanks
as markers on their approach route.
Career Army Officer Sues Cheney, Rumsfeld For 9/11 Complicity
April Gallop files suit for failure to warn people inside Pentagon despite advance knowledge, as well as prior knowledge and complicity in terror attacks
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, December 18, 2008
A career Army officer who was injured in the attack on the Pentagon on 9/11 is suing Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld for failing to issue a warning that American Airlines Flight 77 was about to hit the building despite receiving knowledge of its approach some 20 minutes in advance.
Retired Army officer April Gallop, a ranking specialist with top secret clearance who began working at the Pentagon in 2000, has also filed suit against US Air Force General Richard Myers, who was acting chairman of the joint chiefs on 9/11.
54. Similarly, defendant Rumsfeld — like the President himself, then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defendant Gen. Richard Myers and others — testified and said in public, repeatedly, that no one in the Government security apparatus ever imagined terrorists suicidally crashing planes into buildings. This claim was also absolutely false. In point of fact, the CIA, the NSA, the FAA and NORAD had planned and trained for just such a possibility. Indeed, the record shows training exercises involving such a potential attack had in fact been carried on at the Pentagon in October, 2000 and May, 2001, and that NORAD had begun planning in July, 2001, for a training exercise in which the premise would be that a hijacked airliner was crashed into the World Trade Center. The 9/11 Commission, however — with the same studied indifference it showed towards the Mineta testimony — failed even to mention these contradictions in its Report, let alone explain them away.
“For months, we had in place an exercise in which we’d drill on our responseto a bio/chem attack, specifically practicing for the distribution of medication. The planned date: Wednesday, september 12. We had stored much of the materials for THAT DRILL at pier 92. Pier 92 offered 125.000 square feet of open space and easy transportation to and from Ground Zero by way of boat and the Westside Highway. Moreover, Because IT WAS ALREADY IN USE BY THE MILITARY, the points of access were relatively easy to guard. Richie told me he’d pulled his OEM guys to start setting up pier 92 as a command center. My most optimistic expectation would have been that even a rudimentary replacement for the felled center at 7 world trade would be seven to ten days. By saturday morning, we held our fist meeting.”
Page 355
Leadership-Rudolph W Giuliani
“… the reason Pier 92 was selected as a command
center was because on the next day, on September 12,
Pier 92 was going to have a drill, it had hundreds of people here, from FEMA,
from the Federal Government, from the State, from the State
Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill
for biochemical attack. So that was gonna be the place they were going to
have the drill. The equipment was already there, so we were able to establish
a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three
times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade
Center. And it was from there that the
rest of the search and rescue effort was
completed.” Mayor Rudolph W Giuliani 911 Commission
Below we see the flattened tanks on the left, and
the complete demolition at Ground Zero. Also, below we see what
very much appears to be 2 different Osama Bin Ladins. Which one
are we supposed to believe was responsible for 9/11? If he indeed
did orchestrate 9/11, why isn’t this listed on the FBI web site’s
Most Wanted section? Why did an FBI official named Rex Tomb claim
“the FBI has no hard evidence connecting him to 9/11″?
Did you know Enron supplied gas to Keyspan? Did
you know Enron, which was being investigated by the Security and
Exchange Commission, had files destroyed in the collapse of WTC7?Did you know Keyspan was in a joint venture with Enron in 1998? Here’s an excerpt from a press release:
ENRON TO MANAGE GAS SUPPLY FOR BROOKLYN
UNION
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Friday, February 13, 1998
HOUSTON – KeySpan Energy Corporation and Enron Capital & Trade
Resources Corp. (ECT), a subsidiary of Enron Corp., today announced
an agreement whereby ECT will provide gas supply management services
for Brooklyn Union Gas, the primary subsidiary of KeySpan Energy.
Under the terms of this agreement, which is subject to approval
by New York Public Service Commission, ECT will assume responsibility
for managing Brooklyn Union’s interstate pipeline transportation,
gas supply and storage.
Wouldn’t a real investigation pursue
this trail and see where it leads?
The brochure cover below from a city publication prior
to 2000 shows a strange looking shadow on the north face of Tower
1 coming from 250 Broadway which stood next to WTC7. Paul noticed
this strange shadow, pointing out that the sun could not have caused
this due to the direction of its path. Why would an official city
document have this oddity? Could this signify something ominous?
Could this shadow be pointing towards the Keyspan Tanks? Note the
yellow line in the image below. These are questions Paul is calling
to our attention.
Also, did you know Keyspan got a baseball park built
under the company’s name? For more, click
here.
.
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul
Date: June 23, 2009 12:31:00 PM EDT
To: Paul Isaac
Subject: Fwd: 911 My Research
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From: Paul
Date: June 16, 2009 7:02:58 PM EDT
To: wearechange latino
Subject: Fwd: 911 My Research
Begin forwarded message:
From: Paul
Date: June 16, 2009 8:29:43 AM EDT
To: Paul Isaac
Subject: Fwd: 911
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From: Paul
Date: June 12, 2009 10:06:17 AM EDT
To: Brian Johnson
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From: nyccrashcrew@yahoo.com
Date: June 11, 2009 3:39:02 PM EDT
To: nyccrashcrew@yahoo.com
Subject: 911
Reply-To:nyccrashcrew@yahoo.com
PICTURE TAKEN OF PAUL ISAAC AND MIKE DELANEY AT WTC GROUND ZERO,NEW YORK, NY 9/11/2007
Paul is going to be presenting evidence of 9/11 to the courts and would like your support if you are in the Brooklyn area. This will be going on at the Brooklyn Circuit Court December 7th, 2007. He requests that people come to support him in his efforts to obtain justice for 9/11/01. Here is some of the evidence he will be presenting:
More Unanswered Questions re: Keyspan Tanks
Paul Isaac is an Auxiliary Fireman and first responder.
He has spent an untold number of hours doing in-depth research compiling
many areas of evidence challenging the official account of 9/11.
The image below illustrates a parallel between the
demolition of the Keyspan Maspeth Holding Tanks in Queens, NY on
July 15th, just a few months before 9/11. Although explosives were
outlawed, somehow with the Giuliani administration in power, this
demolition was carried out even though the surrounding area was
residential. You can still see the Queens Gazette article from 7/18/01
here.
Also,
The height of the tanks is approximately the same
as the height from where Flight 175 struck the south tower and the
top of the building. The angle of the collapse of the South Tower
(see Image 2) was almost identical to the angle of the demolition-cased
collapse of the tanks (see Image 3). Also, the antenna from Tower
One came down in the same direction, into Tobin Plaza rather than
west towards the World Financial Centers. The demolition of the
tanks was planned and carried out by Controlled Demolition, Inc.
Isn’t it interesting that this company also was contracted to do
the cleanup after the Oklahoma City Bombing, then again for cleanup
of the World Trade Center towers? Also, see the Online Journal article
here
by Jerry Mazza.
It’s important to realize that pilots flying planes
into LaGuardia Airport used the Keyspan tanks
as markers on their approach route.
Career Army Officer Sues Cheney, Rumsfeld For 9/11 Complicity
April Gallop files suit for failure to warn people inside Pentagon despite advance knowledge, as well as prior knowledge and complicity in terror attacks
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, December 18, 2008
A career Army officer who was injured in the attack on the Pentagon on 9/11 is suing Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld for failing to issue a warning that American Airlines Flight 77 was about to hit the building despite receiving knowledge of its approach some 20 minutes in advance.
Retired Army officer April Gallop, a ranking specialist with top secret clearance who began working at the Pentagon in 2000, has also filed suit against US Air Force General Richard Myers, who was acting chairman of the joint chiefs on 9/11.
54. Similarly, defendant Rumsfeld — like the President himself, then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defendant Gen. Richard Myers and others — testified and said in public, repeatedly, that no one in the Government security apparatus ever imagined terrorists suicidally crashing planes into buildings. This claim was also absolutely false. In point of fact, the CIA, the NSA, the FAA and NORAD had planned and trained for just such a possibility. Indeed, the record shows training exercises involving such a potential attack had in fact been carried on at the Pentagon in October, 2000 and May, 2001, and that NORAD had begun planning in July, 2001, for a training exercise in which the premise would be that a hijacked airliner was crashed into the World Trade Center. The 9/11 Commission, however — with the same studied indifference it showed towards the Mineta testimony — failed even to mention these contradictions in its Report, let alone explain them away.
“For months, we had in place an exercise in which we’d drill on our responseto a bio/chem attack, specifically practicing for the distribution of medication. The planned date: Wednesday, september 12. We had stored much of the materials for THAT DRILL at pier 92. Pier 92 offered 125.000 square feet of open space and easy transportation to and from Ground Zero by way of boat and the Westside Highway. Moreover, Because IT WAS ALREADY IN USE BY THE MILITARY, the points of access were relatively easy to guard. Richie told me he’d pulled his OEM guys to start setting up pier 92 as a command center. My most optimistic expectation would have been that even a rudimentary replacement for the felled center at 7 world trade would be seven to ten days. By saturday morning, we held our fist meeting.”
Page 355
Leadership-Rudolph W Giuliani
“… the reason Pier 92 was selected as a command
center was because on the next day, on September 12,
Pier 92 was going to have a drill, it had hundreds of people here, from FEMA,
from the Federal Government, from the State, from the State
Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill
for biochemical attack. So that was gonna be the place they were going to
have the drill. The equipment was already there, so we were able to establish
a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three
times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade
Center. And it was from there that the
rest of the search and rescue effort was
completed.” Mayor Rudolph W Giuliani 911 Commission
Below we see the flattened tanks on the left, and
the complete demolition at Ground Zero. Also, below we see what
very much appears to be 2 different Osama Bin Ladins. Which one
are we supposed to believe was responsible for 9/11? If he indeed
did orchestrate 9/11, why isn’t this listed on the FBI web site’s
Most Wanted section? Why did an FBI official named Rex Tomb claim
“the FBI has no hard evidence connecting him to 9/11″?
Did you know Enron supplied gas to Keyspan? Did
you know Enron, which was being investigated by the Security and
Exchange Commission, had files destroyed in the collapse of WTC7?Did you know Keyspan was in a joint venture with Enron in 1998? Here’s an excerpt from a press release:
ENRON TO MANAGE GAS SUPPLY FOR BROOKLYN
UNION
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Friday, February 13, 1998
HOUSTON – KeySpan Energy Corporation and Enron Capital & Trade
Resources Corp. (ECT), a subsidiary of Enron Corp., today announced
an agreement whereby ECT will provide gas supply management services
for Brooklyn Union Gas, the primary subsidiary of KeySpan Energy.
Under the terms of this agreement, which is subject to approval
by New York Public Service Commission, ECT will assume responsibility
for managing Brooklyn Union’s interstate pipeline transportation,
gas supply and storage.
Wouldn’t a real investigation pursue
this trail and see where it leads?
The brochure cover below from a city publication prior
to 2000 shows a strange looking shadow on the north face of Tower
1 coming from 250 Broadway which stood next to WTC7. Paul noticed
this strange shadow, pointing out that the sun could not have caused
this due to the direction of its path. Why would an official city
document have this oddity? Could this signify something ominous?
Could this shadow be pointing towards the Keyspan Tanks? Note the
yellow line in the image below. These are questions Paul is calling
to our attention.
Also, did you know Keyspan got a baseball park built
under the company’s name? For more, click
here
[Reply]
While this may be an interesting article I fail to see any groundbreaking information. What I do see is a bit of vague information about how the black helo are chasing him and he is in fear of being the next check-in at some undisclosed US Gulag. Don’t get me wrong I am not saying I don’t believe something is afoot on the whole 9/11 fairy tale the government has led so many sheep to believe, but if you are going to cry wolf give us the big knock my socks off story, instead of a story that is as unbelievable as the governments story is.
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This was the official NIST line in their report on Aug. 21, 2008:
“Did investigators consider the possibility that an explosion caused or contributed to the collapse of WTC 7?
Yes, this possibility was investigated carefully. NIST concluded that blast events inside the building did not occur and found no evidence supporting the existence of a blast event.
In addition, no blast sounds were heard on the audio tracks of video recordings during the collapse of WTC 7 or reported by witnesses.
An emergency responder caught in the building between the 6th and 8th floors says he heard two loud booms. Isn’t that evidence that there was an explosion?
The sound levels reported by all witnesses do not match the sound level of an explosion that would have been required to cause the collapse of the building. If the two loud booms were due to explosions that were responsible for the collapse of WTC 7, the emergency responder—located somewhere between the 6th and 8th floors in WTC 7—would not have been able to survive the near immediate collapse and provide this witness account.”
Barry Jennings was trapped in building 7 when the charges went off. Sad that Barry Jennings died two days before this final NIST report came out.
Barry Jennings was initially interviewed by the BBC right after he was rescued from bldg 7 and here’s his interview shortly before he died.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwvxt3_k7WM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-nrEdJ7XaE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WgJ40xf_Sw&feature=related
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Sorry they keep moving them around on youtube, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQY-ksiuwKU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxUj6UgPODo&feature=related
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Hi, PEACE! There r at least TWO American gentlemen who were in the US Marine and another branch of US military, who R NOT part of the DEVILS in the US Armed Forces. I would enjoy VERY MUCH to personally BLOW the heads off all those SATANIC generals and their men in the military who had masterminded the 9-11!
I shall kick their heads in HELL, yet insha Allah (God Willing) I shall NOT be forever in Hell!
Just SEARCH my name or tjoaginsing to go to my PAGE at Scribd.com. And enjoy!
[Reply]
charles kafka Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
if you kill, you are just as bad (or worse) then they are. this has to be a revolution of truth, anyway, they are much better armed then we are lol…
pick battles you can win
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Joe Jussac Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
Thank u, u r correct. But THIS IS war against those BARBARIANS who murdered 2800 plus people at WTC (I had been there at the top floor) as a pretext to invade Afghanistan, and later Iraq. U know, I don’t even kill ANTS, I Fkept FEEDING them at home with BREAD everytime I saw some of them running to et fro looking for things to eat. I quit small game killing birds, squirrels etc with my air rifle. Thank u for reminding me anyway. Lastly, these maniacs r now heading for PAKISTAN, later on Iran — and ultimately, Saudi!
Peace.
[Reply]
Cheney was the primary planner of 9-11.
The real conspiracy is that he and his co-planners used long-time CIA assets to attack the US, with the help of Mossad. Most did not have the big picture – then or now,
[Reply]
WHAT THE HELL ARE WE WAITING FOR??
LETS GO GET THE BASTARDS!
[Reply]
father time Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Patience brother, it is not time yet,we are way outgunned and they keep tryin to take even more away.. Come on, come get my gun-heh,heh,heh, I’ll wait.
[Reply]
Paul Isaac (sentinel) Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
I see someone has been busy like a Bee removing post
[Reply]
Sorry for the last posting.
new Ipod program upgrade
sentinel
More Unanswered Questions re: Keyspan Tanks
Paul Isaac is an Auxiliary Fireman and first responder.
He has spent an untold number of hours doing in-depth research compiling
many areas of evidence challenging the official account of 9/11.
The image below illustrates a parallel between the
demolition of the Keyspan Maspeth Holding Tanks in Queens, NY on
July 15th, just a few months before 9/11. Although explosives were
outlawed, somehow with the Giuliani administration in power, this
demolition was carried out even though the surrounding area was
residential. You can still see the Queens Gazette article from 7/18/01
here.
Also,
The height of the tanks is approximately the same
as the height from where Flight 175 struck the south tower and the
top of the building. The angle of the collapse of the South Tower
(see Image 2) was almost identical to the angle of the demolition-cased
collapse of the tanks (see Image 3). Also, the antenna from Tower
One came down in the same direction, into Tobin Plaza rather than
west towards the World Financial Centers. The demolition of the
tanks was planned and carried out by Controlled Demolition, Inc.
Isn’t it interesting that this company also was contracted to do
the cleanup after the Oklahoma City Bombing, then again for cleanup
of the World Trade Center towers? Also, see the Online Journal article
here
by Jerry Mazza.
It’s important to realize that pilots flying planes into LaGuardia Airport used the Keyspan tanks as markers on their approach route.
Career Army Officer Sues Cheney, Rumsfeld For 9/11 Complicity
April Gallop files suit for failure to warn people inside Pentagon despite advance knowledge, as well as prior knowledge and complicity in terror attacks
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Thursday, December 18, 2008
A career Army officer who was injured in the attack on the Pentagon on 9/11 is suing Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld for failing to issue a warning that American Airlines Flight 77 was about to hit the building despite receiving knowledge of its approach some 20 minutes in advance.
Retired Army officer April Gallop, a ranking specialist with top secret clearance who began working at the Pentagon in 2000, has also filed suit against US Air Force General Richard Myers, who was acting chairman of the joint chiefs on 9/11.
54. Similarly, defendant Rumsfeld — like the President himself, then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, Defendant Gen. Richard Myers and others — testified and said in public, repeatedly, that no one in the Government security apparatus ever imagined terrorists suicidally crashing planes into buildings. This claim was also absolutely false. In point of fact, the CIA, the NSA, the FAA and NORAD had planned and trained for just such a possibility. Indeed, the record shows training exercises involving such a potential attack had in fact been carried on at the Pentagon in October, 2000 and May, 2001, and that NORAD had begun planning in July, 2001, for a training exercise in which the premise would be that a hijacked airliner was crashed into the World Trade Center. The 9/11 Commission, however — with the same studied indifference it showed towards the Mineta testimony — failed even to mention these contradictions in its Report, let alone explain them away.
“For months, we had in place an exercise in which we’d drill on our responseto a bio/chem attack, specifically practicing for the distribution of medication. The planned date: Wednesday, september 12. We had stored much of the materials for THAT DRILL at pier 92. Pier 92 offered 125.000 square feet of open space and easy transportation to and from Ground Zero by way of boat and the Westside Highway. Moreover, Because IT WAS ALREADY IN USE BY THE MILITARY, the points of access were relatively easy to guard. Richie told me he’d pulled his OEM guys to start setting up pier 92 as a command center. My most optimistic expectation would have been that even a rudimentary replacement for the felled center at 7 world trade would be seven to ten days. By saturday morning, we held our fist meeting.”
Page 355
Leadership-Rudolph W Giuliani
“… the reason Pier 92 was selected as a command center was because on the next day, on September 12,
Pier 92 was going to have a drill, it had hundreds of people here, from FEMA, from the Federal Government, from the State, from the State
Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill
for biochemical attack. So that was gonna be the place they were going to
have the drill. The equipment was already there, so we were able to establish a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade Center. And it was from there that the rest of the search and rescue effort was completed.” Mayor Rudolph W Giuliani 911 Commission
Below we see the flattened tanks on the left, and the complete demolition at Ground Zero. Also, below we see what very much appears to be 2 different Osama Bin Ladins. Which one are we supposed to believe was responsible for 9/11? If he indeed
did orchestrate 9/11, why isn’t this listed on the FBI web site’s
Most Wanted section? Why did an FBI official named Rex Tomb claim
“the FBI has no hard evidence connecting him to 9/11″?
Did you know Enron supplied gas to Keyspan? Did you know Enron, which was being investigated by the Security and Exchange Commission, had files destroyed in the collapse of WTC7?Did you know Keyspan was in a joint venture with Enron in 1998? Here’s an excerpt from a press release:
ENRON TO MANAGE GAS SUPPLY FOR BROOKLYN
UNION
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: Friday, February 13, 1998
HOUSTON – KeySpan Energy Corporation and Enron Capital & Trade Resources Corp. (ECT), a subsidiary of Enron Corp., today announced an agreement whereby ECT will provide gas supply management services for Brooklyn Union Gas, the primary subsidiary of KeySpan Energy. Under the terms of this agreement, which is subject to approval by New York Public Service Commission, ECT will assume responsibility for managing Brooklyn Union’s interstate pipeline transportation, gas supply and storage.
Wouldn’t a real investigation pursue
this trail and see where it leads?
The Y2K brochure cover below from a city publication prior to 2000 shows a strange looking shadow on the north face of Tower 1 coming from 250 Broadway which stood next to WTC7. Paul noticed this strange shadow, pointing out that the sun could not have caused this due to the direction of its path. Why would an official city
document have this oddity? Could this signify something ominous?
Could this shadow be pointing towards the Keyspan Tanks? Note the yellow line in the image below. These are questions Paul is calling
to our attention.
Also, did you know Keyspan got a baseball park built
under the company’s name? For more, click
here.
[Reply]
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Century X-66
“The Chief of london by rule of America,The Island of Scotland shall be be tempered by frost,Kings an Priest shall have one,who is a false Antichrist.Who will put them altogether in discord”. British and American leaders united in a political venture, shall set up a dictator, who shall in the end betray both leaders and common people.
Century X-49
“Garden of the world, near the New City,In the way of the man-made mountains,Shall be siezed upon and plunged into a ferment,Being forced to drink sulphurous poisoned waters.”
This startling prophecy of a catastrophic event at a pleasure resort not far from the great New City, predicts a tremendous tidal wave of poisoned waters that shall sweep in from the resort and overwhelm the man made like skyscrapers of the new city.
The complete prophecies of NostradamusTranslat ed, Edited and Interpreted By Henry C. RobertsCopyright 1947
(Sentinel at Large)
[Reply]
“Normally, the department would thorughly familiar with the FEMA programs,but the authorities on the national Urabn Search and Rescue programs–Chief Ray Downey, Commissioner Feehan, and Chief Donal Burns– are all missing.” (Author) Page 202 Report From Ground Zero (Dennis Smith)
“We got there TWENTY MINUTES after the towers came down and Parked on the other side of City Hall. Someone brings us an ESU officer who was wandering. We put him our truck for accountability purposes. Behind his eyes you could see he was really shaken up, he would just look at you. We said, “you’re all right. Your with us now.”
All he answered is “They came down.” I said, “I Know they came down.” We staged by the Woolworth Building and get a roster of who is missing and who is not. We then go to stuyvesant High School and from there to ground zero, where we see what kind of equipment we can salvage. FEMA WAS ACTIVATED, AND THEY SHOWED UP WITH EQUIPMENT THAT HAD TO BE STACKED.”
NYPD Police Officer Anita Rosato
Emergency Services Unit, Truck 10
Page 126 Report from Ground Zero
(Dennis Smith FDNY Ret)
Day 2 September 12: “Later as it begins to get dark…” “I see the first squad of Urban Search and Rescue Teams pass by and I know they are specially prepared, equipped, and paid by the Federal Emergency Management Agency.” (Author)Page 198 Report From Ground Zero (Dennis Smith)
“Some of them HAVE ALREADY ARRIVED, for I saw the group from Seattle and another from Texas, all in very identifiable dark blue coveralls, with the initials USAR in large letters across their backs. Each team includes about fifty men and womenn specially trained in rescue work.” (Author)Page203 Report From Ground Zero (Dennis Smith)
Paul Isaac (Sentinel)
[Reply]
“PA Chair noted that relocating teneants would have been far more protracted and expensive had the explosion occured in the boom year of 1985, ironically, That was the year that the PA’s Antiterrorist unit, the Office for Special Planning (OSP), analyzed the state of security at the World Trade Center. This internal report beacme part of the evidence in the lawsuits brought on behalf of 800 bombing victims on grounds that the OSP analys, made public in a legislative report issued six months after the blast, describing how a timebomb-laden vehical could be driven into the WTC and parked in the public parking area… At a predetermined time, the bomb could be exploded in the basement…. The Assistant Deputy Director for the F.B.I. thinks this is a very likely scenario for the WTC and has described it graphically in conversation with OSP staff.”Pages 204-205 DIVIDED WE STAND Eric Darton 1999
P.S. The biggest plane is service at the designing and construction of the WTC was the Boeing 747 not B707. Began building it in 66 and went into service with Pan Am in 72
Paul isaac (Sentinel)
[Reply]
“I wonered if the Vice President was in charge. Dick Cheney was President Fords Chief of Staff when I first served in the Justice Department; I knew him and had a great confidence in him, so I was relieved to hear a women on the telephone say, Mr Mayor, the Vice President will be on the line.” “My intention was to speak to the Vice president and then immediately relkay what he told me to the people of New York through the press, who were being assembled outside be memebers of Sunnys’ staff. Within a second or two, the line went dead. For the moment, re-establishing that phone link tookup all my attention. So it took some time for me to realize why the phone line was disconnected.” “A few minutes after ten o’clock, we felt and heard a thunderous roar but did not know what had actually occured. Some thought the sound was a new attack, and THE WAY THE GROUND SHOOK (emf-Mine) made it feel like that. I was still on the telephone, hoping to be reconnected, when Joe Esposito yelled, “Its comming Down-everybody down!” “Since I was still in a back cubicle trying to speak to the Vice President, I didn’t hit the deck. In fact, when I heard the words “Tower” and “Down”, I imagined that the radio tower atop the World Trade center had fallen off.” Page 11Rudolph W. Guliani LEADERSHIP with Ken Kurson Miramax books 2002
Paul isaac (Sentinel)
[Reply]
Late Friday night 14 Sept 2001- “I had to be at a meeting that wasn’t on my schedul. I didn’t even mention it to my closest staff. The topic was biological and chemical warfare, which I feared would be the next terrorist move.”Page 357 Leadership
Rudolph W Giuliani
“I scheduled our first meeting for 11PM., Specifically to keep it secret from the press lest word of it further unsettle an already rattled city. Thats also why I held it at gracie mansion. The sight of these people-some of whom were well known in the scientific community as experts on Biological attack-might trigger concern if they came to the emergency management center. Richie Scheirer, Jerry Haurer, and the Police Commisioner, The fire commisioner, health commisioner Neal Cohen and his assistant commisioner for infectious dideases, Dr. Marcello Layton, OEMs’ Edward Gabriel, and Dario Gonzalez and I spent several hours with people like Dr. Burt Meyers, an infectious disease expert at Mt Sinai Scholl of Medicine, Dr. Martin J. Blaser, the Chairman of NYUs Department of Medice, and Dr. Josh Lederberg, who had won the Nobel prize.” We recieved plans rel;ated to possible attacks involving anthrax, smallpox, botulism, and sarin gas. We established charts for each-how one would detect the first sign, how muchtime each individual would have to act once the symptoms appeared. How would each be delivered?
page 358 (Leadership) Rudolph W Giuliani
[Reply]
The Following testimony is from Dennis Smith (FDNY Ret). Author of Report from Engine Company 82. Honorary Chief FDNY (Lots of time on 18 years 60s and 70s) This is a desciption of WTC7 from the about the time after the second (T2) Collapse.
He is now on Vessey and West st pulling 6 and Half inch hose from FireBoat Harvey. He describes the following:
“I learn then that the Chief has been clearing the area in anticipation of the collapse of the forty-seven stories of WTC7. Suddenly, several hundred firefighters are milling about, and when the order is given we all are moved back another few hundred feet from the corner of vessey and West. We jus mingle there, talking quietly, I meet a police captain, and ask if he has seen joe dunne, the first deputy Commisioner. The captain shakes his head and say, “It’s not Good, what I hear.” Page 175 Report From Ground Zero (Dennis Smith)
”All of a sudden the forty seven story building before us begions to shake. “Its Comming down,” someone yells, and everyone gets poised to run in the oposite direction, I head to the with a small group into the bagelshop at the uptown side of the street, but I am watching the building as it begins to crumble, It falls almost as if in slow motion, sinking straight down, and then leans to the south, leaving most of its rubble against the north wall of building 6.” “I wait for the dark cloud of concrte dust to come hurtling towards us, but it rolls in the other direction, towards the northeast” Page 176 Reorpt from Ground Zero (Dennis Smith)
“With 7 WTC down, the army of construction workers, police officersw, EMTs, and firefighters begins to work. People who have never met begin working side by side as if they have practiced for
Paul Isaac (Sentinel at Large)
[Reply]
” On August 7, 2001 I was driving through New jersey on my way to camapin apperances on behalph of the republican candideate for New Jersey Governor.” I was explaining my ideas about preparation to Ken Kurson and I specifically cited recent cases of false reports of Anthrax and the awareness that it gave us of how to handle that emergency should it actually occure. A little over a month later, antrax sent through the postal system terrified the entire country. New York City might have been brought to a stand still had our team not practice for precisely that contingency” Pages 63 and 64 Leadership (Rudolph W Giuliani)
Paul isaac (Sentinel)
[Reply]
Spammy?
Sentinel (getting closer to the truth)
March 16, 2009 at 3:01 pm
“The Port Authority closed the 1990s with a stream of press releases announcing the rental of unimaginable huges quantities of Trade Center office space to “Cutting Esge” firms like Sun Microsystems. Yet around the complex A MILLION SQAURE FEET STOOD EMPTY, and the building originaly intended as great catalizing chambers of world trade were by degrees, transforming into a kind of DISJUNTIVE REALESTATE LAYER-CAKE. One story above the carpeted,wood- paneled offices of a Japanese securities firm, A GROUP OF ARTIST FILLED BARE WALL WITH BOLDLY COLLORED IMAGES AND HUNG SCULPURES FROM THE EXPOSED CEILING GIRDERS OF VAST ECHOING CAVERNS. As part of the Lower Manhattan Cultural Council program that TURN SOME OF THE VACANT SPACE IN THE TOWER OVER TO ARTIST RENT FREE, 40.000 SQUARE FEET OF CONCRETE FLOOR lay painted and strewn with the Raw materials of creative urge that has never been easily reconciled with the imperatives of a bottom line. Under such conditions, one could begin to read in the Trade Center symptoms of an internal fragmentation quite at odds with the image of a thriving, Class-A lower Manhattan Office Complex.”Pages 191-192Divided We StandEric Darton (1999)
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“The Downtown Lower Manhattan Association and Department of City Planning, in their joint 1993 Plan for Lower Manhattan, proposed RADICALLY CULLING THE HERD OF OLDER BUILDINGS. The suggestion of even broader plazas, in place of OBSOLETE SKYSCRAPPERS, put a positive spin on an OFF-THE RECORD OBSERVATION BY THE DLMA spokesman that in order to stabilize property values, SEVERAL DOZEN DOWNTOWN OFFICE BUILDINGS WOULD SIMPLY HAVE TO BE RAZED.”Page 206Divided We StandEric Darton(1999
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Did Rudy say something wrong? “… the reason Pier 92 was selected as a command center was because on the next day, on September 12, Pier 92 was going to have a drill, it had hundreds of people here, from FEMA, from the Federal Government, from the State, from the State Emergency Management Office, and they were getting ready for a drill for biochemical attack. So that was gonna be the place they were going to have the drill. The equipment was already there, so we were able to establish a command center there, within three days, that was two and a half to three times bigger than the command center that we had lost at 7 World Trade Center. And it was from there that the rest of the search and rescue effort was completed.”
Major questions exist as to why FEMA would deny being in New York City prior to 9/11 without mentioning the 9/12 bioterror drill. These questions must now be addressed as the initial suspicions of those who learned of the Tom Kenney statement have been clearly validated. The coincidental presence of a large FEMA team in NYC at the location, Pier 92, which became the Command Center for the entire emergency operation is disturbing. An alert press and a legitimate 9-11 Commission should have raised this issue long ago. [Scoop] Intel sources allege controlled demolition of the WTC was a U.S. DOJ “war games” exercise involving FEMA and run by former NYC Police Chief Bernard Kerik at Pier 29.
Submitted by fedup 2006-02-05 10:47:15
according to intelligence sources who asked not to be named until subpoenas and testimony commence. When Thomas Ridge resigned, the alleged 9-11 terrorist Kerik, SIDEKICK OF RUDY GIULIANI, was in line to become Secretary of Homeland Security after the passage of the U.S. Patriot Act; however, his appointment was derailed by Congress due to multiple irregularities and improprieties; Kerik was never subpoenaed for interrogation about these allegations involving Defense Department operations on 9-11 called “Code Angel” / Tripod II.
2. TARGETED PAPERWORK/PERSONNEL DESTROYED AT THE PENTAGON: moreover, ONI officials themselves– ***some of whom WERE PROBING the fraudulent 10-year debt instruments allegedly held by Cantor-Fitzgerald in the doomed North Tower***–also perished along with the investigation files, all of which were curiously in the path of the 9.11 Pentagon impact. Colonel Hermann had offices in the Northwest corner of the Pentagon and he worked with David Rose of the Chancellor of the Exchequer’s office for the Queen of England. She said that Keith Johnson, the Queen’s signatory at Wachovia Bank, told her about the Office of Naval Intelligence being hit at the Pentagon on September 11–that there had been an ongoing investigation of money laundering in that Pentagon office.
“For months, we had in place an exercise in which we’d drill on our responseto a bio/chem attack, specifically practicing for the distribution of medication. The planned date: Wednesday, september 12. We had stored much of the materials for THAT DRILL at pier 92. Pier 92 offered 125.000 square feet of open space and easy transportation to and from Ground Zero by way of boat and the Westside Highway. Moreover, Because IT WAS ALREADY IN USE BY THE MILITARY, the points of access were relatively easy to guard. Richie told me he’d pulled his OEM guys to start setting up pier 92 as a command center. My most optimistic expectation would have been that even a rudimentary replacement for the felled center at 7 world trade would be seven to ten days. By saturday morning, we held our fist meeting.”
Page 355Leadership-Rudolph W Giuliani
Tom Kenney: “We’re currently one of the first teams that was deployed to support the city of New York for THIS DISASTER. We arrived on late Monday night, and went into action on Tuesday morning. And not until today did we get a full opportunity to work the entire site.” (Tom Kenny MASS- FEMA/USAR) Sept 13, 2001
“Normally, the department would thorughly familiar with the FEMA programs,but the authorities on the national Urabn Search and Rescue programs–Chief Ray Downey, Commissioner Feehan, and Chief Donal Burns– are all missing.” (Author) Page 202 Report From Ground Zero (Dennis Smith)
“On the third night we had a guy arrested who followed ONE OF THE Urban Search and Rescue Teams. He had an orange jump suit on with a backpack, and he was wearing a helmet that said Rescue across the back. He had a book of some kind and followed one team and broke off from them after they were. He did a little shopping in the stores down on the concourse. Someone else tried to accompany ANOTHER USAR team down, but it leader was a pretty sharp guy from MASSACHUSETTS (Tom Kenny). “This guy is not one of ours,” he said.” You may want to check him out,” We called one of our cops over and found a ton of watches and cell phones in his backpack. They arrested him”
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FDNY Assistant Chief of Department
Harry Meyers
Report from Ground Zero
(Dennis Smith)
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you are an american hero, and a patriot. those others who lie, turn a blind side are going to go down in history as the bad guys.
read your history books people.
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This article, in itself, is not ground shaking but it’s content is in fact another piece (video, and testimonial) of the growing evidence pile that implicates the bush administration et. al. in the murders of over 3000 people in this country.
Being patriotic NEVER has meant simply supporting our country or it’s president…it means nothing other than defending the Constitution of the United States of America from all enemies, foreign or domestic. To do anything other than that these days is to be unpatriotic.
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WNBC has obtained the transcript of Giuliani’s appearance with
Jennings, from the Giuliani 2008 campaign. This is the verbatim of the
issue in question:
“I–I went down to the scene and we set up headquarters at 75 Barkley
Street, which was right there with the police commissioner, the fire
commissioner, the head of emergency management, and we were operating
out of there when we were told that the World Trade Center was going
to collapse. And it did collapse before we could actually get out of
the building, so we were trapped in the building for 10, 15 minutes,
and finally found an exit and got out, walked north, and took a lot of
people with us.”
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So thus Giuliani piles lie upon lie to this day, denying he said what it is
proven he did say.
It would appear that he was the chosen one, the pre-planned “hero” let in on the dirty secret of the 9/11 inside job and allowed to obscenely profit, politically and monetarily, from
the mass-murder of 3000 innocent Americans. It looks like the neo-Nazi
neo-cons, finding his style of totalitarian rule to their liking, had him in mind for the Presidency even before the demolition explosives were put in place.
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Fire Fighters Continue Campaign Against Giuliani
WNYC Newsroom
NEW YORK, NY May 29, 2007 -Home base may not be safe for the Giuliani
campaign. Some of New York’s bravest are planning to protest the
former mayor as he campaigns in the boroughs where Giulian says his
got his base support for both successful bids as mayor.
Fire Fighters and Family’s for Truth say they want to debunk what they
call the ‘Giuliani myth’ of September 11th by highlighting what they
see, as the former mayor’s failing before, during and after the
terrorists attacks. They will hold a press conference this evening in
Bay Ridge Brooklyn outside one of Giuliani’s scheduled campaign stops.
Giuliani’s says he has addressed the criticisms of his handling of the
city’s response to the terrorists attacks saying although it was not a
prefect response, he did the best he could.
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“I thought, Somebody’s got to tell the Fire Department to get out of there,” Loizeaux told me. “I picked up the phone, dialled 411, got the number, and tried it–busy. So I called the Mayor’s Office of Emergency Management”–which was in 7 World Trade. “All circuits were busy. I couldn’t get through.”
John Seabrook Author of
Why The Towers fell
(Sentinel at Large)
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On 10-10-09 the us/israhell will do another false flag and on that same day, Russia, China and the SCO are going to completely destroy America.
This is the war of Armageddon and you can know that it is now because of all the chemtrails sprayed every day globally to hide the sign in the heavens, our 10th planet. This is also the reason the govt is now classifying all asteroid events secret.
News and sources here:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/16612974/War-News
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Back to Sonnenfeld:
“As official videographer for the U.S. government, Kurt Sonnenfeld was detailed to Ground Zero on September 11, 2001, where he spent one month filming 29 tapes: “What I saw at certain moments and in certain places … is very disturbing!” He never handed them over to the authorities and has been persecuted ever since.”
If this guy was working for FEMA, it seems the tapes would belong to them- and if he refused to give them up cuz there’s incriminating evidence on them, why’s he been sitting on it for more than 7 years- why didn’t he immediately do something with them?
“Voltaire Network: As we said, deciding to write this book and to go public was a huge step. What pushed you to do it?
Kurt Sonnenfeld: To save my family. And to let the world know that things are not what they seem.”
From what he says at voltaire, he’s obviously familiar with some of the other claims surrounding 9/11, not just what he’s a witness to.
If he’s a whistleblower, and is being persecuted and has incriminating video, he needs to release it already- it’s going on 8 years after 9/11
This article from 2007 says 2 inmates said he confessed to the murder while in jail- although it wouldn’t be the first time incarcerated criminals lied for a deal.
Claims of 9/11 conspiracy have suspect running scared
Former Denverite says 9/11 work has made him a target
http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/local/article/0,1299,DRMN_15_55554...
Wife filed for separation a month before she died, suicide note was later found behind a picture of Kurt:
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The first thing that must be done to prevent the killing and destruction the Pentagon is noted for is to change American culture to understand that war is not an honourable pursuit. It is in fact a sign of failure on the part of US leaders. Defense and war are two very different things. Defense is necessary because we live in a dangerous world. War is not necessary and in fact is a choice made by both the US military and US civilian leadership. Walk softly but carry a big stick said old Teddy and he was right. You can prevent enemies from attempting anything foolish against you simply by showing them your strength and reminding them that any aggressive action on thier part would have deadly repercussions. Instead the government has used the military to attack and invade countries all over the world many times, and in doing so have shown the world, America’s weaknesses. It has bankrupted the national treasury and worn down the military with constant activations to more and more war venues. A patriotic American would refuse to participate in discretionary wars and force the goverenment to take care of America at thome instead of squandering its resources elsewhere.
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Actually, Keith Henson preceded Kurt Sonnefield in seeking asylum outside the US (in Canada) because of Scientology’s harassment, and corruption of the judicial system in Riverside County, California, which the US gov’t would do nothing about. It is hard to speak out about the gov’t or anything it sanctions because the repercussions are fierce. Good luck to Kurt in obtaining asylum.
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Mossad sent this guy in to film the WTC wreckage so that they can have something on the perps. Standard m.o.
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Ginzo Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 3:30 pm
… except that the perps were the Mossad!. That’s something we know tight from day one
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The American Dream and America with it died in the rubble of 911.I believe in Karma. You reap what you sow.For the US government and CIA to perpetrate such an evil act against innocent people and blame it on others in order to start a war and all for the benefit of a minority of banking oligarchs.This means one thing that is America is finnished.And their crazy NEW WORLD ORDER will destroy all of mankind.Karma a diabolical action will always give birth to a diabolical result. The US and western masonic Lucifer worshipping mad men and women are more evil than most of us normal people can imagine.Thats the problem and thats why there hasn`t yet been an armed uprising against them.Its because we are too simple to imagine that such evil and deception can exist.
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American government if rife with oppression, from 9 11 coverups to the everyday humiliation and torture of its citizens at the hands of the code enforcers. Ive been in exile ten years and it looks like ill never be able to come back or want to. But if by chance this goes anywhere, can you guys go after the department that kidnapped my daughter and are charging me extortion for the favor?
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zionazi jews are parasites that have destroyed their host-the whole world by causing 911 and the wall st. engineered depression so that the new world (zionist illuminati) order can
take over the world-they are planning a nuclear war to exterminate all people except 500,000,000 who they need to keep alive as slaves-adios from the nh patriot. get your ak47s and black pajamas ready for the next civil? class war…
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the perpetrators of 911 are the fat cats Bush,cheney,rumsfeld and co.the sad thing is that there will probably be another 911 sometime in the future.and the blind sheep that are the majority of the american public will simply believe everything their insane government tells them.it matters not that obama is the new president.the puppetmasters are still running the show behind the scene.God help America and the world.
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the dumb kids who go into the army and marines are brainwashed losers
who couldnt get into college and didnt want to work at mcdonalds.they like to go to Iraq and Afghanistan to kill ragheads and get PAID for it they are puppets and cannon fodder for the zionazi rothschild wall street banksters and the neocon traitors. wanna know about war? google Gen. Smedley Butler and read all about american imperialism…
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hmm, looks like this comment area has been “hijacked” lol.. our intelligence agencies im sure know nothing on how to do this .
just one more thought, then i guess i’ll have to let this board cool down a bit.
I really hope the Bushes, Cheney’s knew what they were doing when they started this 2 (soon to be 3 ) front ground war in Asia. I’t appears to be a money/power grab of some kind,… which is ok, if the reasons are legitimate. i guess only a few of the top poeple will ever know. i just hope it was worth it. and i apologize, to those who did this really really stupid act. Its my duty as an American citizen, and a world citizen, is to point out crime, and traitorous acts when i see them.
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Robert, I’ve also been constantly emailing the politicians not to pass this and that (and it’s almost like a 2nd upaid job). I’ve also been constantly reading and passing on many articles to the people that I know (hoping they would also get cracking).
I myself have MCS (multiple chemical sensitivity) of a moderate degree, so I can’t get out there like Alex Jones with his bullhorn or get out there like the illegal alien marchers (in the shadows).
I’ve been constantly writing/warning about subjects anywhere from ending the wars, demanding that the banksters get treated just like Madoff to environmentalism.
As far as environmentalism, that would be addressing Depleted Uranium & White Phosphorous from our perpetual wars, HAARP, Chem Trails (both HAARP & Chem Trails are for weather manipulation and who knows what else), GM Terminator seeds, fluoridated water and addressing those ill with Agent Orange, Gulf War Syndrome and MCS and those ill from 9/11….But everything I send falls on the deaf, dumb and blind. AND if I tell anybody about this to their face, they look at me as if I’m green, triple headed and have antenaes on my head or the classic glazed eyes or rolled eyes and sighs.
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Kerston Reply:
June 26th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Roxan
This is off topic sorta. But what is MCS exactly and what are the symptoms? I mean it sounds somewhat self explainitory but I have been battlleing something for years wich has kind of been diagnosed as epilepsy. I am very sensirive to chemicals, perfumes, ect. sets it off bad. You probably won’t see this but it was worth a shot.
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EXPOSE, EXPOSE, EXPOSE!
Tell others. The thing the evil ones fear the most is that the rock from under which they hide will be lifted and they, like cockroaches will be EXPOSED. They hide behind secrecy, back stabbing and sucker punching Americans, they are residing in American government everywhere and even in the house of the people…the WH.
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roxann said
“But everything I send falls on the deaf, dumb and blind. AND if I tell anybody about this to their face, they look at me as if I’m green, triple headed and have antenaes on my head or the classic glazed eyes or rolled eyes and sighs.
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I did and do all those things too to some extent. I no longer have the goal of “waking people up.” Seems to me I ought to try to stop “protesting against” things and start living consciously to promote peace and love and truth and righteousness based on my faith in God. Maybe observing the right kind of behavior in me, without my preaching or trying to wake people up, will help some soul. We are not to know what effect our actions and behavior have. That is purely up to God and His ways and His timing.
This whole discussion got way off the orginal article. I will just say again that the orginal article looks like some new minor psyop regarding 9-11. Seems lately there is a flurry of 9-11 stories and I had begun to believe that the 9-11 truth movement was dead. Wonder what this timing means.
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“During the weeks following the World Trade Center disaster, when “Free time” did not exist, I carved out hours to learn more about the issues that had been forced upon the city, to seek out sources of both knowledge and inspiration. When I read, I’m devoted underliner. Shortly after September 11, JUDITH GOT ME A COPY OF YOSSEPH BODANSKY’S Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared War on America. Soon was covered in highlighter and notes. I MET WITH BODANSKY TO DISCUSS HIS BOOK AND SAT DOWN WITH HENRY KISSINGER TO TALK ABOUT WORLD TERRORISM AND GET HIS PERSPECTIVE ON ITS HISTORY AND RAMIFICATIONS.”
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Leadership
” Another of the ads BBDO pitched to me was to feature an older gentleman running the bases at Yankee Stadium After he slides into home, the clou of dust reveals HENRY KISSINGER saying “Derek who”? The ad people weren’t sure DR. KISSINGER would go for it, but I WAS CERTAIN HE WOULD. HENRY’S A BIG BASEBALL FAN AND AN EVEN BIGGER YANKEE SUPPORTER. More than that, it would be on behalf of the city in which HIS OWN DREAMS HAD BEEN FULFILLED. When I brought Henry Kissinger to Ground Zero, He told me it was worse than anything anything he’d seen in Berlin after World War Two.”
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Leadership Rudolph W Giuliani
Sentinel
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Hmm, didn’t PNAC call for a 2nd Pearl Harbour?
Yes, it would be absolutely delightful if our military actually rounded up ALL guilty politicians who got us into this mess (including all those who keep our borders wide open like a seive and kowtow to illegal aliens but ignore their own constituents) and then keep beating the drums about the War on Terror and “Homeland Security.”
Also, the military should go in and arrest all these banksters and people like Geither and members of the Federal Reserve and IMF…They should all be in jail with Madoff.
But, I won’t hold my breath on this.
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12 Sept 2K1
Wednesday morning, JUDITH WAS THE FIRST TO SAY TO ME, ” You Know, nobody is checking in.” I asked her what she meant–then relized that we had recovered some people on Tuesday, but none after that. I got reports throughout the night, and we weren’t taking anybody out. We kept the capacity in place, hoping, praying. It was a terrible disappointment. ”
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Leadership Rudolph W Giuliani
“Jerry (Hauer) and Judith told me they wanted me to look at it (Pier 94), and if I agreed with them they’d work ourt the transition (Family Center) with Ro and that “going slowly’ would mean only two or three days.”
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Leadership Rudolph W Giuliani
“In a purely volunteer capacity, Judith teamed up Richie Sheirer (OEM), Rosemarie O’Keefe, and Jerome Hauer to transform 125.000 square feet on a pier in the Hudson River into a shelter for the thousands of families of victims.”
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Leadership Rudolph W Giuliani
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“1998 I appointed Dr Neal Cohen as my Health Commisioner, There was some critism over the fact that HE WAS A PSYCIATRIST. It was suggested I should have chosen a commissioner with a background in public health. As it turned out HIS UNDERSTANDING NOT JUST OF THE MEDICAL INFORMATION BUT OF EMOTIONAL AND PSYCHOLOGICAL IMPACT OF CRISIS WAS CRITICAL TO OUR HANDLING of West Nile virus, SEPTEMBER 11, AND THE THREATENED ANTHRAX EPIDEMIC.”
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Leadership (Rudolph W Giuliani)
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“After the World trade Center were attacked, the morning meeting became even more critical. “OVERNIGHT, IT WAS TRANSFORMED INTO THE PLATFORM FROM WHICH THE ENTIRE RESPONSE AND RECOVERY WOULD BE PLANNED. The meeting was expanded to include many people from outside my administration, such as Governor pataki’s staff, members of the CDC; representatives utilities,FEMA, and many from my own administration who hadn’t typically attended the meetings.”
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LEADERSHIP Rudolph W Giulinai
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DAY 51, October 31, 2001
(HOLLOWEEN ???)
“I have been alarmed by a feature item in the morning paper. It was announceed today that the CITY is reducing the presence at Ground Zero of the fire department, police department, and port authority police to 25 personnel from each uniformed service for each eight-hour.”
“Also, more than $200 million in gold and silver was recovered taday from a vault deep in the basement area that was leased by the bank of NOVA SCOTIA.”
(Author Dennis Smith)
pages 335-336
Report From Ground Zero
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The picture really looks a whole lot more like a truck tire (perhaps from a fire engine?). It really looks nothing like an aircraft tire…too square.
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“The third time I felt a personal sense of loss on that first day was when I found out that Barbara Olson had been on that plane that crashed into the pentagon.”
(Rudolph W. Giuliani)
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Leadership-Rudoph W Giuliani
“Barbara and Ted Ted were my friends…”
…On April 23 [2001] , When she and Ted dropped by City Hall on the way to dinner at the Womans National Republican Club. A month later, they came by again and spent a long time, enough for us to relax and talk about old times and enjoy one another’s company.”
(Rudolph W Giuliani)
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Leadership-Rudoph W Giuliani
“On August 3, 1981, 13.000 of the 17.000 members of the Professional Airtraffic Controller Organization (PATCO) walked off the job. President Reagan held a cabinet meeting. Attorney Gerneral William French Smith brought me along to explain our strategy, and Ted Olson, then in charge of the Office of Legal Counsel’ came as well.”
(Rudolph W Giuliani)
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Leadership-Rudoph W Giuliani
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“Ten Minutes before the building collapse (North tower), Paddy Brown got on the department radio to say there were many seriously burned victims on the thirty six floor, Then he called “MAYDAY MAYDAY,’ Chief Haydon tried to raise him in return: “Paddy Brown, Paddy Brown!’ But no one ever heard from him again. It was reported later that somebody warned him: ” We gotta get out, Paddy.” Paddy Only Replied, “We gotta get these people out.”
(Author Dennis Smith)
Page 266
Report From Ground Zero
“AS SHOCKING AS THIS CRASH WAS, WE HAD ACTUALLY PLANNED FOR JUST SUCH A CATASTROPHY. MY ADMINISTRATION HAD BUILT A STATE OF THE ART COMMAND CENTER, FROM WHICH WE HANDLED THE EMERGENCIES THAT INEVITABLY BEFALL A CITY LIKE NEW YORK, SUCH AS THE WEST NILE VIRUS, BLACKOUTS, HEATWAVES,HURRICANES, SNOWSTORMS, AND Y2K(tHE YEAR 2000). IT WAS PACKED WITH COMPUTARS AND TELEVISION SCREENS TO MONITOR CONDITION ALL OVER THE CITY AND BEYOND. IT HAD GENERATORS IN CASE THE POWER FAILED, SLEEPING ACCOMMADATIONS IN CASE WE HAD TO STAY OVERNIGHT, STORAGE TANKS WITH WATER AND FUEL, AND STOCKPILES OF VARIOUS ANTIDOTES. IT WAS LOCATED ON THE 23RD FLOOR OF 7 WORLD TRADE CENTER, JUST NORTH OF THE TWIN TOWERS.”.
Rudolph W Giuliani
Page 4–Leadership Rudolph W Giuliani
(Sentinels’ Note: Emphysis Mine)
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(Wednesday September 12, 2001)
“On Wednesday, Govorvernor Pataki made available the cavernous National Guard Armory on Lexington Avenue.”
“At the Armory, Joe Albaugh, The Director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Was COORDINATING THE RESPONSE. Allbaugh is a huge man, his military haicut sheared to a fraction of his sqare Oklahoma head. Rosemary O’keefe is a classic New Yorker–she wears her emotions on her sleeve. As we (Giuliani) left Major Obregon’s office I noticed Allbaugh and O’Keefe, two apparently opposite types, give each other a long hug”
” I decided to bring in Jerry Haurer, who had been my first Director of Emergency Management,to evaluate the current space as also help decide on a new space.”
“We were already Preparing to move the command center from the police academy to Pier 92, Immediately north. I instinctively liked the idea of locating the Family Center so close to the CENTER OF GOVERNMENENT.”
(Thursday September 13, 2001)
“The offices were outfitted with a few phones and the police Academy staff did the the best they could, but the place hadn’t been intended to accomadate the entire city goverment, let alone others whose help was needed. Governor pataki and his staff were working overtome, and evryone from Secretary of Health Tommy Thompson to Joe Allbaugh was parked on the Academy’s inadequate furniture. Food, wtaer,and protective gear collected on each surface.”
Pages 344,347,and 351
Leadership-Rudolph W. Giuliani
Sentinels Note: Yet first responders had to wait weeks for proper breathing mask,
Go Figure.
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“Peering Two Decades into the Furture”
“Early in 1996, The Regiopnal Plan Association issued its third plan, officially titled (A Region at Risk). Underwritten by Chase, Chemical,Goldman Sachs,The New York Times Company, Nynex, IBM, and other corporations heavily invested in the region, the third plan following in the footsteps of its 1930s and 1968 predecessors, encompassing the thirty-one counties in and around New York City.”
“The RPA recommended dismantling both the Port Authority and the Metropolitan Transit Authority and reconstituting thier salvageable parts in a comprehensive mega-agency; the tri-state Regional Transpotation Authority. In addition, it advocated building the network of rail links its previous plans had consigned to obsolescence–this at a cost of $25Billion; $1Billion per mile.”
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Divided We Stand
Eric Darton (1999)
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Day 2, September 12:
“Mayor Giuliani is on television this morning, and it seems he has the media under control. He Has undoubtedly made a decision to speak for the city and that all information will be supplied by a single voice,his. He promises to appear each day at a 10 o’Clock press conference. He had been on 50th street and Fifth avenue when word of the first crash came, and he rushed down to his bunker,at #7. But not long after he arrived, the south tower collapsed and he had to leave through the basement. He went to 75 Barclay street, but that area was also determined to be unsafe so he traveled to the firehouse of ladder 5 on th avenue and Houston street, where he worked for a few hours”
Dennis Smith
Pages 190-191
Report from Ground Zero
(Dennis Smith FDNY Ret)
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Day 2, September 12:
“THE DESTRUCTION AT THE WTC IS A CLEAR-CUT ACT OF TERRORISM, BUT IN READING THE PAPERS THIS MORNING I FIND THAT PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD ARE NOT CONVINCED THAT OSAMA BIN LADEN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IT.”
Dennis Smith FDNY Ret.
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Report From Ground Zero
(Dennis Smith)
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“We were concerned about additional collapses, stability of the hotel and the rest of the facade there; plus, we still had 7 World Trade Center, which was STILL BURNING also. we were worried about that collapsing, and it did collapse, about six hours later. THERE WAS A CONSCIOUS DECISION TO LET THAT BUILDING BURN AND JUST KEEP EVERYBODY CLEAR.”
FDNY Deputy Chief Pete Hayden
Commander, Division 1
Page 32 Report from Ground Zero
Dennis Smith
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I heard that a number of people were burnt in the elevator because of falling jet fuel. IT COULD BE TRUE THAT THAT HAPPENED BECAUSE THERE WERE AT LEAST SIX OR EIGHT PEOPLE RIGHT OUTSIDE THE BUILDING WHEN WE CAME IN THAT WERE BADLY BURNED. So there must have been some type of BLAST somewhere. I was wondering how they got burned, and I remember saying to myself,HOW DID THEY GET DOWN THE STAIRS SO FAST?”
FDNY Deputy Chief Hayden
Commander, Division 1
page 28 Report from Ground Zero
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“When I got up to 23(Tower1) it was kind of quiet on the floor–very dark, I saw some firefighters moving around, but not any command post or chiefs. The hallway was full of debris where I was walking, debris about three feet high covering a whole section of the hallway. I was puzzled as to what it was, because I know the plan had hit way above.”
FDNY Lieutenant Mickey Cross
Engine 16
Page 72 Report from Ground Zero
Dennis Smith
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“After the Bombing of the WTC on Feburary 26, 1993, Melvin Schweitzer, a member of the Port Authority Board of Commissioners, Told me (Dennis Smith) that he repeatedly inquired of the Port Authority about the possibility of a plane’s running into the towers.”
page 193 Report from Ground Zero (Dennis Smith)
ON 911:
“Firemashals and the police had arrested a number of unauthorized people wearing firefighters coats. the day was hot, and so trauma filled and frenetci that firefighters were leaving their bunker gear on the top of the burnt out cars so they could get right to the search and rescue work. SOME OF THOSE ARRESTED HAD BEEN SPEAKING ARABIC INTO CELL PHONES, and others were looting. One man had filled a pick up truck with equipment he had cleaned of the firetrucks at the scene–tools,lights, powersaws, and generators.”
Page 192 Reoprt from Ground Zero (Dennis Smith)
Day 3, September 13th
“One person mentioned that the airports, which had been closed since the second plane hit the south tower, were reopened today, and that flights were operating. They were scheduled to be reopened last night, but A MAN WITH A CONTERFEIT PILOTS LICENSE WAS DISCOVERED TRYING TO BOARD AN AIRCRAFT AT KENNEDY, and all flights were subsequently canceled as a prudent measure.”
Page 201 Report from Ground Zero (Dennis Smith)
Sentinel
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Day 3, September 13th
“I take a seat there among a few firefighters and learn that about fourteen thousand pounds of GOLD is stored in the basement vaults of a bank in WTC7, and also that there are seven safes belonging to the Secret Service that hold vital and valuable goverment secrets.”
Page 202 Report from Ground Zero (Dennis Smith)
Sentinel
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Day 2 September 12:
“Later as it begins to get dark…”
“I see the first squad of Urban Search and Rescue Teams pass by and I know they are specially prepared, equipped, and paid by the Federal Emergency Management Agency.”
Page 198 Report From Ground Zero (Dennis Smith)
“Some of them HAVE ALREADY ARRIVED, for I saw the group from Seattle and another from Texas, all in very identifiable dark blue coveralls, with the initials USAR in large letters across their backs. Each team includes about fifty men and womenn specially trained in rescue work.”
Page203 Report From Ground Zero (Dennis Smith)
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December 2001,
“I joined Governor Pataki and Mayor-Elect Bloomberg on a trip to Jerusalem, to show solidaryity after the suicide bombing in the Ben-Yehuda pedestrian mall and the Sbarro pizzaria.
As busy as I was during my last month as Mayor, I thought it vital to support Ireal, Jerusalanm, and its mayor, persoanl friend Ehud Olmert. Among the first to call me after September 11 were Prime minister Sharon and Mayor Olmert.
They offered any help they could, but even more, they offered a tremendous example of daily heroism–how to go ahead with life in the face of Constant threat. And again, the flight to Isreal and Back affgored a rare oportunity to reflect–and to sleep.”
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Leadership–Rudolph W
Guiliani
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When Oh!! When will the mainstream media report the truth on 9/11.?
SECRECY THE MASK OF DECEPTION.
WHILST SECRECY PREVAILS DEMOCRACY WITHERS & FAILS.
MAY THE TRUTH PREVAIL OTHERWISE WE ARE ALL DEAD IN SPIRIT MIND & BODY.
‘They who lead us lead us astray.”
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In December 2001, I joined Governor Pataki and Mayor Elect Bloomberg on a trip to Jerusalem, to show solidarity after the suicide bombings in the Ben-Yehadu pedestrian mall and the sbarro pizzaria. As busy as I was during my last month as mayor. I thought it vital to support Ireal, jerusalem, and its mayor, my persoanl Ehud Olmert. Among the first to call me after september 11 were priome minister Sharon and Mayor Olmert. They offered any help they could, but even more, they offered a tremndous example of daily heroism–how to go ahead with life in the face of constant threat. And again, the flight to Isreal and back afforded a rare oportunity to reflect–and to sleep.”
Page 373
Leadership Rudolph W Giuliani
— On Thu, 2/12/09, NYC Nemesis Nemisis wrote:
From: NYC Nemesis Nemisis
Subject: Re: [v911t] Rudy,Olmert and 911
To: v911t@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, February 12, 2009, 4:39 PM
Rudy Giuliani and Ehud Olmert – Terrorist Partners
Posted By: ChristopherBollyn
Date: Tuesday, 4 December 2007, 10:20 a.m.
TOP SECRET
Ehud Olmert’s Pre-9/11 Visit to NYC
Jerusalem’s Terrorist Boss Was in New York City on Eve of 9-11
Ehud Olmert, the Likud mayor of Jerusalem from 1993 until 2003, made a secret visit to New York City on September 10, 2001 – the eve of the worst terror attack in U.S. history. What was this visit about and why has this visit been kept secret?
I only found this information buried in a 3,000 word article in the Jerusalem Post about the Betar (Likud) football club from 2004. I confirmed it by finding an article in the Toronto press that Olmert had been at a Zionist fund raiser in Toronto on September 9, 2001.
This is a huge story, but it takes some understanding of Ehud Olmert’s ties to 9-11 to appreciate how important this revelation is. For those who are not aware of Olmert’s close ties to the key players in 9-11, I highly recommend reading this article that I wrote in June 2006:
“Ehud Olmert’s Ties to 9/11″
http://www.rumormil lnews.com/ cgi-bin/archive. cgi?noframes; read=89761
What is so telling about Olmert’s complicity in the attacks is that he, and the entire New York media and political community, pretended that he was never there on September 10, 2001.
Olmert was the mayor of Jerusalem at the time, and Jerusalem has been the sister city of New York City since 1993, the year that Olmert became mayor. In 1995, Olmert upgraded that status to a special “mutual cooperation” between the two cities.
Yet the mayor of Jerusalem comes, un-announced and unreported to New York City on September 10, 2001, has a meeting with several Israeli “businessmen” who have businesses in Deerfield and Delray Beach, Florida, and nobody notices?
Sister city mayors Ehud Olmert and Rudy Giuliani did a real song and dance about terrorism after 9-11, but never mentioned that Olmert had been in New York on September 10, 2001. Why was this kept secret if his visit was NOT connected to 9-11 in any way?
In all of their public conferences and phone calls that were done in the aftermath of 9-11, Olmert never said anything like this: “You know, Rudy, I was just in New York City a few hours before the attacks. I can’t believe that it happened to the city that I just visited.”
This makes no sense at all, unless he had prior knowledge and was involved in 9-11. If he were not, he would have admitted and even underlined the fact that he had been in New York City only hours before the attacks. I was in New York City just hours before the attacks and have emphasized this in speeches and articles. Why had Olmert hidden his visit?
Why has he hidden his visit? There can only be one explanation. The public is NOT to know that the extreme right-wing mayor of terror-plagued Jerusalem was in New York City just before the terror attacks that changed American history?
Why?
There is NO way that Mayor Rudy Giuliani and the New York police department did NOT know that Olmert and his gang were in town. This is the first question the Giuliani should be asked:
Were you, as mayor of New York City, aware that Ehud Olmert was in New York City on September 10, 2001?
and then…
When did you learn that Ehud Olmert was in New York on September 10, 2001? Did Olmert stay until the 11th of September? At what point did Olmert leave New York City?
We know that Olmert was in Jerusalem on the afternoon of September 12, because he attended a ceremony marking the terror attack at the Sbarro pizzeria that was bombed in August 2001.
Note: The flight time from New York to Israel is 10 hours. Israel is 7 hours later than New York City. If Olmert had flown from New York on the afternoon of 9-11, he would have arrived early the following morning in Tel Aviv.
Ehud Olmert, the extreme right-wing mayor of occupied Jerusalem, with Rudy Giuliani, the mayor of New York City and Sen. John McCain (R.-Arizona) at the Emergency Operations Center in New York on September 21, 2001.
Ehud and Rudy have put up a complete false fascade. Clearly, this information, that Ehud Olmert was in New York City on the eve of 9-11, is information that the public is not supposed to know. I will be explaining the significance of his meeting with the Levy brothers of “Wings” of Florida and other coastal states in the next article.
Not a single newspaper in New York, or the world, has reported about Olmert’s secret visit to New York on September 10, 2001.
Please tell us, Mr. Olmert, why were you in New York City on September 10, 2001 and why have you hidden this visit from the public?
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GERALD SHEA Memo–
http://www.newsfollowup.com/id/docs/MemorandumtotheCommissionandSelectCommitteesbold.pdf
Beware !!!! the enemy within.
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“Now that the second plane had hit, the command center was being evacuated—it was to near to the attacked buildings and itself be a target. After he called me about the first palane, HJoe Lhota and the director of OEM,Richie sheirer, had gone to the command center, still asuming it was a terrible accident”
Pages 5 and 6
Rudolph W Giuliani Leadership
“Within minutes of the first plane hitting the towers, the decision was made to establish two command post–one for the fire department and one for the police department. the reason for this is that the departments were going to perform different tasks and had different requirements. the fire department had to lead the rescue and evacuation. The Police department had to protect the rest of the city. As the team leading the rescue, the fire department immediately became incident commander. They set up thier command post so that theyhad the building in their line of sight. The police department had already begun setting up at 75 Barclay and securing the hardlines that were neeeded to communicate with the defense department and the white house, as well as albany and the governor.”
Page 7
Leadership Rudolph W Giulinai
“I wanted the police and fire commisionors and the director of OEM together to maximize communication between agencies. I also needed them ti advise me on what to tell the public. I then told the firemen that I wanted the Fire commisionor Tom Von Essen to join my group. Tom had rushed to the lobbey of tower 1 after it was hit and wanted to stay there with his men. But I needed him to tell the people how to evacuate.”
Page 9
Leadership Rudolph W Giuliani
Sentinel at large
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the jews are behind it all…..ALL OF IT!
Now they are destabilizing Iran to cause a crisis….if all you tough guys out there really want a REAL WAR
against a worthy opponent, North Korea is waiting for you to bring it on!!
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charles kafka Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
not true, , that’s like calling all Italians mafia. the “real” people behind this, have nothing to do with god, or religion, unless that religion is money.
i see some pour demented soul bomb a synagogue, or a holocaust museum, and what? shoot a poor security guard who is trying to make a living? get your enimies straight.
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Little by little, the truth is coming out.
And it will come out.
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Sad to say, but although Mr Sonnenfeld has a point in what comes to several of his claims, he arrived in Argentina and contacted Perez Esquivel as well as other extreme left-wing icons that supported Cuban and urban guerrilla elements that operated in this country in the seventies and killed thousands of innocent bystanders in remote-controlled explosions, kidnappings and firefights. We have a saying in Argentina that goes: “Tell me what friends you meet, and I will tell you who you are”.
The fact he gets together with these questionable people makes me wonder whether he is politically motivated or not. Thanks to the forum
Matt
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Bahahaha….he wrote a freaking book. Big whoopdeedoo! All the crooks and liars write books, yet offer nothing up of real substance.
I call fake unless he releases his videos immediately to the public. I don’t want to read no stinking book! Am I;m not about to pay $30 for a book of unconfirmed BS.
Release the tapes idiot, and stop the charade. We all want to get rich but not at the expense of 9-11 victims. You offer NOTHING new to the investigation of 9-11 except hollow words.
just shows you how ignorant americans can be. they still believe these derelicts and will pay for more unconfirmed “truths” about the 9-11 event.
BTW – I have secret videos from the airplanes themselves. Please send a check or money order for $30, and I will tell you all about it. Or send $50 and a personally autographed picture along with my story will be sent within 120 days. Shipping and handling apply.
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Freedom was never free
Blood Sweat and Tears
Never Forget 911
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The twin towers appeared to me to be a controlled demolition when I first saw it on T.V.I always knew that some very corrupt and disturbed people ran the world,but I did not know just how bad it was.Now I know it is very bad and I do not know if we can survive this.The New World Order,has planned carefully everything.It is impossible to believe that all the banks in all the countries could have all been so stupid at the same time…I read about this scheme 5 years ago,and it is all falling into place nicely.The worst is yet to come.Advice..stay away from vaccinations.and find your own water source if possible,and keep it private.
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charles kafka Reply:
June 24th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
same here, didn’t even question the “terrorist attack” when it happened. it was only later on, when the bush administration, had the terrorists named, and was all ready to go to war, that something was just off. Then some online friends of mine, started tracking the money trail, (remember : to find the criminal follow the money?)( hmm feds completely ran out of time to track that, but my friends did) that things started to smell really bad. then the news started filtering through,, about the use of atomic bunker busters in the basements,, that was it… sorry, but i don’t know which is worse, that they (the powers that be) felt they could propagate this on us? or that the masses, (and our lesser leaders, are so just plain stupid, scared, or just genetically modified to be the perfect yes – men to just fall for all this malarkey. What is the establishment going to do? kill everyone who either isn’t a yes-man/woman or has an IQ over 40?.. gad what a wonderful picture of the future is that !
sorry to be a fly in the ointment, but i just am not physically or mentally able to dumb myself down to that level., and i will hear and read opposing articles, even though it hurts to see, important people debase themselves that bad as to be able to
make themselves look totally incompetent.
but back to the point, when friends of mine started disseminating the information, it became surprisingly clear this was just “business as usual” for these guys, possibly a little too overboard, because of cocaine use, but looks like they might even get away with this total farce, and a warning for the future, if they get away with this one, the next false flag operation will be bigger. And im not even getting into the argument about a land war in Asia… Come on! watch the movie “princess bride”, or actually pick up a school book (right side up), on history! or think, or something!!!!
but business as usual, when when that happened, i (and alot of other people, started looking deeper, ) someone really screwed up this operation, and it aint us poor working chaps, who are guilty of pointing out the obvious.
Charles Kafka
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worse than you think. The elitists that run this slop world realize that all cannot live. We are resource bound, and the maddening rush of overpopulation will take its toll if allowed (!) to continue. 80 millions souls are brought into the world each year.
All programs designed and implemented by the elitists are designed to rid the earth of the poor, feeble, weak and unproductive.
Your thesis of the New World Order is simply the next boogie man, the next Bin Laden. Those in charge have been in charge for many centuries and they dictate who lives and die.
Those allowed to live will be those that fall into the category of the survival of the fittest. ..in all respect.
It is not about the 9-11 event. it is not about the JFK assassination. It is not about terrorism. Its not about the thousands of issues pontificated on each day by the many thousands of bloggers, researchers and truthsayers. It is about a handful of people…in the hundreds who have their minions doing their dirty work. That includes our government and its officials. Everything else is a distraction from the real issue.
Bring justice to our republic by first holding those elected and in leadership position to be accountable for their actions. That should be our only focus. Otherwise, we are fragmented, divided and unorganized.
A criminal network runs our government and its elected officials are complicit. They should all be scrutinized and investigated for treason and fraud to the constitution and to our country.
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they are letting the mexicans over run the country because they know something big is coming to wipe everybody out any how. Could be flu, could be nukes, could be planet X or all of the above.
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IRREFUTABLE EVIDENCE– “We hope you will find the courage to review this evidence thoroughly.” AE911Truth.or
WTC 7 was IMPLODED NYC 9/11, refer Larry Silverstein video-Pull ( Implode.) building 7 – http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/cutter.html?q=cutter.html
Who do you trust G.W.Bush serial throat liar or Sir Isaac Newton-Galileo. Law of Falling Bodies-Law of Motion- Law of Momentum Conservation Principle.?
FIREFIGHTERS.
http://firefightersfor911truth.org/?cat=11
This work is dedicated to Chief of Department Peter J. Ganci Jr. and his
342 fellow F.D.N.Y. members killed in action while trying to save others.
Summary of Evidence of Controlled Demolition at the World Trade Center
(Expansive citations below)
This article appeared originally at FireFightersFor911Truth.org and is
the intellectual property of David R. Wayne & Greg Garrison C2008 with
all use permissions hereby granted provided that all copies include this
notice of authorship.
The evidence summarized below proves conclusively that 3 World Trade
Center buildings collapsed on 9/11/2001 as the result of controlled
demolitions. It makes no attempt to determine why, or to imply by whom.
From a scientific standpoint, it is inadvisable to leap to conclusions
because there are always scenarios we may not be prepared to imagine. In
science, as in life, an open mind is a good thing. It is conceivable
that there was a bio-threat airborne in the CIA undercover New York
station in Building 7 capable of wiping out 20 million people if it
wasn’t immediately neutralized by the use of Thermate. Although that is
unlikely, it remains possible and therefore, scientifically, it stands
as an unknown, as do many other unknowns.——–etc etc
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Archie Reply:
June 25th, 2009 at 6:41 am
“The evidence summarized below proves conclusively that 3 World Trade
Center buildings collapsed on 9/11/2001 as the result of controlled
demolitions. ”
Let us define “controlled demolition”.
In its most generic sense, the term simply means
controlled – means the exeuction of the demolition was controlled by man, the action of man. A man pushed the button.
a demolition – a destruction that can take various forms but is nevertheless destruction
However, in most people’s minds, then think that “controlled demolition” means only certain kind of “explosives” or traditional kind of building explosives were the agent. And the “explosive charges” were set in the building before hand in the traditional manner of “controlled demolitions”.
Also, people think that”controlled demolition” means that whatever traditional kind of explosives were set in whatever kinds of traditional ways, that those explosives were the SOLE cause of the destruction.
People tend to think there are no nontraditional agents of destruction that could have been employed in tandem with traditional explosives. They assume that Dr. Steven Jones’ so called “peer reviewed studies” proves the entire source of the destruction. Not quality thinking.
“”The evidence summarized below proves conclusively that 3 World Trade
Center buildings COLLAPSED on 9/11/2001 as the result of controlled
demolitions. ”
The term “collapse” is a very unscientific term. It implies a downward GRAVITY collapse. The buildings are said to have “come DOWN.”
That term “collapse” is a further manipulation of the thinking of people so that they think like fuzzbrains.
Here I am only talking about the destruction of WTC 1 and WTC2. (I acknowledge that Building 7 did appear to be what people perceive as a traditional “controlled demolition.)
NIST did a report called NCSTAR1 that only reported on WTC1 and WTC2. The report was mandated by congress to “Determine why and how WTC 1 and WTC 2 collapsed …”. Stupid way to word the request. A biased kind of wording that NIST was thankful for and fully used and did not waste.
OK Even if we want to accept a general understanding of the word “collapse” as meaning “destruction” , remember that the NCSTART report did not even contain an analysis of the collapse of the WTC towers as NIST was supposedly mandated to do.
NCSTAR1 is “fraudulent and deceptive” because it does not address the profound level of destruction of the WTC towers that seemed to violate the laws of physics.
NIST admitted that they did not even analyze the collapse. NIST admitted that they did not fulfil the mandate by congress.
NCSTAR 1 – Final Report on the Collapse of the World Trade Center Towers,” yet they did not analyze the “collapse” or even determine if it actually did “collapse.”
NIST cannot make a statement that the World Trade Center towers came down in ‘free fall’ on one hand, and then say that doing so is a form of “collapse.”
A collapse involves gravity and therefore cannot be described, as NIST did in the report, that it was “freefall” NIST’s own data describes how the buildings were turned to “DUST” . This DUST or “dustification” of these steel buildings does not satisfy the laws of physics in terms of a graviity collapse. NIST can’t have it both ways.
But their nonsense unsicientific garbage NCSTAR1 report tries to have it both ways.
Applied Research Associates (ARA) – were one of the contractors for the NCSTAR reports The kind of “weopons” that that company manufactures could have been the general kind of weapons that could have been used to destroy the towers, or used in combination with more traditional “weapons” of destruction.
These contractors are the top “military industrial complex” companies and they had a clear “conflict of interest” in being involved in producing this NCSTAR1 and they appeared to exercise “willful blindness” as to the quality of their objective study and analysis of the towers.
Much of the steel in the towers turned to dust before it reached the ground, but NIST and its contractors and study team ignored that evidence.
NIST stated in NCSTAR 1 that it only investigated the factors leading to the initiation of the collapses of the WTC towers, not the collapses themselves.
So NIST did not even do what they were mandated to do or what the full title of NCSTAR1 implies –
“NCSTAR 1 – Final Report on the Collapse of the World Trade Center Towers”
Different people and groups have tried the legal way to get NIST to answer some tough questions about their joke of a study, but the system is thorougly corrupt and the judges and courts betray their oath of office and are equally criminally corrupt.
One last thing, while there were probably some “explosions” in the subbasement areas of the towers, the desctruction , or collapse initiation if you prefer, happened from the TOP DOWN, and folks, that is fully supported in all photos and that is most nontraditional.
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In 1492, Chemor, chief Rabbi of Spain, wrote to the Grand Sanhedrin, which had its seat in Constantinople, for advice, when a Spanish law threatened expulsion.2 This was the reply:
” Beloved brethren in Moses, we have received your letter in which you tell us of the anxieties and misfortunes which you are enduring. We are pierced by as great pain to hear it as yourselves.
The advice of the Grand Satraps and Rabbis is the following:
1. As for what you say that the King of Spain obliges you to become Christians: do it, since you cannot do otherwise.
2. As for what you say about the command to despoil you of your property: make your sons merchants that they may despoil, little by little, the Christians of theirs.
3. As for what you say about making attempts on your lives: make your sons doctors and apothecaries, that they may take away Christians’ lives.
4. As for what you say of their destroying your synagogues: make your sons canons and clerics in order that they may destroy their churches. [Emphasis mine]
5. As for the many other vexations you complain of: arrange that your sons become advocates and lawyers, and see that they always mix in affairs of State, that by putting Christians under your yoke you may dominate the world and be avenged on them.
6. Do not swerve from this order that we give you, because you will find by experience that, humiliated as you are, you will reach the actuality of power.
(Signed) PRINCE OF THE JEWS OF CONSTANTINOPLE.”
2. The reply is found in the sixteenth century Spanish book, La Silva Curiosa, by Julio-Iniguez de Medrano (Paris, Orry, 1608), on pages 156 and 157, with the following explanation: “This letter following was found in the archives of Toledo by the Hermit of Salamanca, (while) searching the ancient records of the kingdoms of Spain; and, as it is expressive and remarkable, I wish to write it here.” — vide, photostat facing page 80.
~ The above was quoted from Waters Flowing Eastward by Paquita de Shishmareff, pp. 73-74 The 9/11 was done by the CHOSEN PEOPLE OF SATAN(JEWS)those people that adopted judaism in 740 kingdom of KHAZARIA,,BIBLE,REVELATION 2:9,,3:9
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“The “Patriots” are nothing but sour grapes, delusional, ex-army, Bush loving rednecks looking for an excuse to start civil war. Can’t handle the fact that people were sick and tired of Bush?”
LOL, are you kidding???
THAT’S what you think Patriots are??
Good lord, get your head out of the sand. (And also out of the false left/right paradigm!)
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Kurt is yet another conspiracy nutcases with wild, and some demonstrably false, accusations. Conspiracy retards will eat this stuff up, though.
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dba Reply:
June 25th, 2009 at 7:18 am
How typical – all you can do is throw out invectives. You cannot constructively critique anything that has been explained. YOu no doubt voted for Bush.
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oil
spy
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goyim
opium
profits
the fed
mossad
neocons
911 liars
art students
chickenhawk
whistleblowers
moving company
propaganda media
The chosen the superior
Extortion blackmail bribery
By deception ye shall wage war
AIPAC’s Israel-first dual-nationals
2-3% of the U.S. population controls
For-profit NotFederal NoReserve scam
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CODEX FREEDOM !!!
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US cities may have to be bulldozed in order to survive
Dozens of US cities may have entire neighbourhoods bulldozed as part of drastic “shrink to survive” proposals being considered by the Obama administration to tackle economic decline.
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“The “Patriots” are nothing but sour grapes, delusional, ex-army, Bush loving rednecks looking for an excuse to start civil war. Can’t handle the fact that people were sick and tired of Bush?”
Do some research before you spout off. Visit any militia meeting room and you’ll find that we want justice for the crimes committed by Obama, Bush II, Clinton, Bush I, and most all of the federal ciminal syndicate since the beginning of the 20th century. We simply want the return of a Constitutional Republic. This nations government was underminded and overthrown without a whimper over 100 years ago. Liberty is not something that we have a right to hand over to these criminals. It’s not ours to give away and we refuse to cheat our children and our children’s children by yielding to tyrrants.
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Ex-military Reply:
June 25th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
A return to a Constitutional Republic is not possible. What does that mean, ” a return to Constitutional Republic.”
How can there be a return to a Constitutional Republic when the Constitution wasn’t written for the American people. Why do people want to return to this when it was created and written for the corporate/church nexus where a hidden elite operate through their minions embedded in government.
Don’t just respond with a whimper, first study this history and you will then understand why it is so complex and impossible to stop this intentional destruction of America.
Begin your studies, “patriots”, and then return here and begin a discourse on this highly controversial subject:
http://www.atgpress.com/inform/gov030.htm
Now quick every one, back to your televisions to catch up on the latest developments in the death of Michael Jackson.
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shane Reply:
June 26th, 2009 at 9:07 am
I’ll agree with the techincal incorporation of the states and it’s apllication of the Constitution. The US law has recognized the application of the Constitution to the common man, which sets legal precedence. Regardless of the federal government’s recognition of the common man’s rights, the common man has the capacity to enforce the generally accepted law. The fact is we, the occupants of the united states are heavily armed. Gun blasts speak louder than arbitrary laws and old men in suits. When you get down to brass tacks, the laws are made and enforced by those who have the capacity and willingness to decimate the opposing force. 180 million armed citizens, means we win.
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The FBI polygraphers will clean-up this mess.
Google “Quadri-Track ZCT”
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Radiation-induced cancers -
Watch this video …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7FNGWsjj_Y
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We unfortunately have no federal judges who aren’t in the program. None of them have any balls or character to make accountability happen. The whole system is run by freakin lawyers. The Obama birth certificate fiasco is one prime example. They arent even afraid to let their actions be obvious to the public because the police have beaten down protesters / terrorists. The only way to bring back truth now is going to cost a lot of blood. Mostly Joe the plumber’s blood. Maybe Russia will invade to topple our fascist rulers like we did in Iraq. Then we can greet them as liberators!
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Ex-military Reply:
June 26th, 2009 at 6:23 am
Take one incriminated lawyer out and hang him in full public view – it ends now.
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Our government was hi-jacked almost 200 years ago… WAR OF 1812.
The original 13th Amendment revoked the citizenship from anyone who accepted a title of nobility or honors (Judges). Esquire is a title of Nobility it put the Lawyer…Esquire above the Sovereign which can never be… the Esquire is a FICTION created by governments the Sovereign is a creation of God.
This was actually ratified as evidenced by OFFICIAL printings by the Legislatures of MANY States between 1819 and 1870.
They finished the hijacking after the Civil War… all of the reconstruction acts and the 14th amendment (establishing FICTIONS AT LAW… ie…CORPORATIONS and barring states from denying any PERSON (not a man or a woman) equal protection under the law. A PERSON is not a living breathing soul). After the states wouldnt rewrite their state constitutions doing away with Protestant affirmations for holding any office the legislators were barred from Congress even though it was the same legislators who passed the amendment which is commonly known as the 13th banning slavery.
So it remains that Lawyers and corporations were to be barred from Public Office as their allegiance is to the government as their agent.
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Rudolph W Guiliani K.B.E.
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Giuliani KBE right after attack wtc.
Isreal is a British tool
Lord Bafore
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If all of you took as much time to write comments here, then take the time to write your congress person and get them to reopen the 911 investigation. Buildings do not fall due to fire period!! They fell at the rate of free fall speed ten seconds.
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You mean the congress and senate that sold us out?
NYsentinel
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My bad
didnt see the post were being shift around
sorry
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[...] Photographer Escapes Government 9/11 FEMA videographer at Ground Zero goes public | Republic Broadcasting Network This is an interesting story and reminds me of Kevin Sutavee, the guy that was a Christian that [...]
February 13, 2009
John Feal
President and Founder
Feal Good Foundation
144 Shenandoah Blvd
Nesconset, New York 11767
Feal13@aol.com
Dear Mr. Feal,
I respectfully request to see all of Feal Good Foundation’s accounting book’s, including all donations both cash and check, operating expenses, payroll, deductibility percentage, loans, all We Are Change donations, principal benefactors, grants and bequests, (2002 to present). This is afforded to me, by law, since you are a 501 ( c ) 3 tax exempt organization. I have taken the Liberty upon myself to notify other people as some times things get lost and I wouldn‘t want that to happen.
Very truly yours,
Pasquale Di Lillo
Cc: Heather La Mastro
Manny Badillo Victim Family Member
Dallas Carter
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Feal Good Foundation
Is this charity legit? I really would like some info about this!
http://www.melissadata.com/Lookups/n…submit1=Submit
His Fed TAX ID# Lookup
I know this does not mean it is legit…
How can i go about looking for more information about checking into this organization. They say 100% goes to first responders but there are links to groups like the “truth movement” and at an event they are holding they have speakers that avoid taxes like Ed Brown and they have Alex Jones who has said the FDNY are “In on it” meaning blew up the WTC.
this is why i have my doubts
Any info on where to look if this is fraud please.
on his website
“John Feal is scheduled to donate his kidney on August 30, 2007″
http://www.fealgoodfoundation.com/Bulletin.html
Good health to him if he is really doing this….
Other sites is http://www.wearechange.org they are holding the event http://www.fealgoodfoundation.com
thank you
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More Questions For Luke Rudkowski
Luke, what are you doing with the money? Again more question come up. After Luke raised money for his legal defense fund which was originally meant for him and two others this mysteriously turned into the “Save Luke from getting butt raped in prison fund”. Well I did a search on the New York State Court Unified Court System at http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/webcrim_attorney/DefendantSearch searched for Lukasz Rudkowski. Since Lukasz was able to raise $4k for the legal defense fund. I had to find this a website that had the wearechange NY legal defense fund chip-in widget on another website cause again Luke is trying to cover his tracks. why does he have a legal aide lawyer? What has he done with money he raised for a lawyer? WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO STOP THE HERO WORSHIP AND REALLY WONDER WHY WE ARE ASKING THESE QUESTIONS!! HERE IS YOUR PROOF 9/11 SHEEPLE.
Posted by Louie Bee at 6/17/2009 04:46:00 AM
Labels: funds, luke rudkowski, transparency, wearechange
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Louie Bee
[url]www.wearechangelatino.com[/url]
May 24, 2009
We feel extremely reluctant to discuss the current situation with “WE ARE CHANGE”, but it needs to be addressed if we are going to move forward in this movement. This situation has been extremely disruptive, and we hope we can all come to a resolution in a civil and honest manner. It should be known that I’ve tried to deal with this in a private setting, hoping to shield the rest of the movement from this unnecessary drama. However, Luke Rudkowski has put us in a position where that is no longer possible. It should be also noted that Luke Rudkowski that over the past few months, the following has occurred:
Luke Rudkowski routed all donations totaling over $100,000 (according to the chip-in flash application gauge) to his PRIVATE BANK ACCOUNT (just like Les Jamison of NY911truth did). Luke Rudkowski has 100% control of donations that come to We are change. Luke Rudkowski has yet to give a real detailed financial report in two years which is supposed to be provided according to voted on bylaws.
Luke Rudkowski has made slanderous statements regarding the integrity and allegiance of myself and others and accused us of being cointelpro. And the only crime we committed was asking questions and demanding answers about the bank account. Luke Rudkowski’s false and slanderous accusations have given this movement a black eye. The punishment for asking questions to Luke Rudkowski is chapter deletion from main site without a democratic group vote. We will not allow Luke Rudkowski to become judge, jury and executioner in the case against devoted members.
Luke Rudkowski has refused and ignored any efforts by us and other members of WE ARE CHANGE to deal with this situation. Luke Rudkowski has ignored our request to see records. Instead Luke Rudkowski just accuses people of being negative or trying to cause the group to split. We are change only just recently said they have become a registered LLC. No proof has yet to be shown.
Luke Rudkowski has publically stated that he is the steering committee. Luke Rudkowski only surrounds himself with new people who will not disagree with him and whoever wants to stay in the cool crowd. Luke Rudkowski has also stated that we are change shouldn’t be a democratic group and all decisions should come from him and him alone. Luke Rudkowski has allowed all the great things he has accomplished to go to his head.
And we won’t even get into how Luke Rudkowski screwed Tom Foti, one of our most active and dedicated members, when Tom questioned Luke Rudkowski.
We feel that actions speak louder than words. We will not stoop to calling Luke Rudkowski an infiltrator. But we will bring the proper attention to his actions. This needs to be resolved in a way where everyone in the group has a voice. This isn’t a dictatorship. It’s an activist organization that will only prosper through teamwork. Personally, we have nothing to hide and we are not afraid of airing this situation out in the proper forum. Also the “WE ARE CHANGE” that we have come to know is no more. We believe in working with in the law to bring change.
Lastly, Luke Rudkowski had the same problem with Les Jamieson of NY911truth. According to Luke Rudkowski, Les did the same exact thing to him. THAT’S WHAT YOU CALL A HYPOCRITE!!!!
Read his open letter at http://www.wearechange.org/ny911truth/index.html in the event that this link is disabled we have taken screen shots to prove it.
Signed,
We Are Change Latino & We Are Change Pennsylvania, Inc.
UPDATE
WE ARE CHANGE NYC disabled the link here are the screenshots
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Is 911 being used by criminals to make huge profit?
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Tyler Whitford Reply:
June 27th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Of course. Since the volumes of data that prove there is a conspiracy are never put out for public consumption and only for profit, it stands to reason the sole source of their “patriotism” is financial and nothing else.
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THANK YOU ALL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 2:20 PM
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Subject: Petition Filed!!!
Dear Friends!
On Wednesday, June 24, 2009, we filed the petition with 52,000 signatures!
9/11 Family Members Maureen Hunt and Manny Badillo, and First Responders Charlie Giles of the Feal Good Foundation and Bill Gleason of the World Trade Center Rescuers Foundation, arrived at the City Clerk’s office to deliver the petition and speak in behalf of all the proud and concerned citizens who deserve an unbiased, nonpolitical investigation of the tragedy that has affected us so deeply.
Thank you for getting us this far! City Council now has until August 24 to approve the placement of the referendum on the November 3 ballot. As hundreds more family members, first responders and survivors join our campaign and lobby their council members to support the petition, our chances grow.
In the unlikely event City Council does not approve the placement of the referendum on the ballot, we will be prepared to deliver an additional 30,000 signatures on August 24 to guarantee it gets on the ballot. Already we have 8,000 of the additional 30,000!
Now more than ever is the moment to stand up for what we believe in and convert to reality what we have been working towards for so long. This is how you can help:
DONATE IF YOU CAN. We need money to pay our amazing petitioners who are now collecting 4,000 to 5,000 signatures per week. We need money to pay a legal team. We need money to launch a full-scale PR campaign once the referendum is on the ballot. Go to http://NYCCAN.org/donate.php right now!
TELL FAMILY MEMBERS, FIRST RESPONDERS and SURVIVORS. We have a Statement of Support at NYCCAN.ORG that every family member, first responder, and survivor is welcome to sign. We have already accumulated over 60 signatories in the last week – THANK YOU to those of you who joined us in calling for a new, impartial investigation. Now our goal is to reach 1,000 signatories by September 11, 2009. If you know someone who was directly affected and wants accountability, send them to NYCCAN.ORG. The more New York-based family members, first responders and survivors who sign on, the more City Council will hear from the constituents it simply can’t ignore.
TELL YOUR FRIENDS. Nothing works like word of mouth. Forward this email far and wide.
While there is little room for celebration, we deserve to be proud of how far we have gotten and where we are going. Over eighteen months of hard work and selfless dedication from hundreds of individuals, and the generosity and faith shown by thousands of you across the globe, have gotten us here. And now it comes down to the next four months. Thank you for standing with us.
Sincerely,
Ted Walter
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By Tom Weiss
The so-called “9/11 ballot initiative” pushed by Lyndon LaRouche surrogates Les (”Less”) Jamieson and “Father” Frank Morales at St. Mark’s-in-the-Bowery (aka “Our Lady of La- Rouche”) Church, is a fraud. It is fraudulent to call for the creation of a so-called NYC”
“independent” commission, the members of which have already been picked. In fact one of the so-called “Commissioners” is LaRouche surrogate and self-purported 9/11 “expert” Ralph Schoenman. It was Schoenman who, at Jamieson/Morales’ invitation, spoke at an April Fool’s Day, 2007 meeting of “9/11 Truth” at St. Mark’s from which “9/11 Truth” dissenters such as Luke Rudkowski and I, certainly arriving separately, were physically barred by Jamieson and Morales, who in fact called to police to back them up.
As the steadily increasing number of of UP FRONT News readers who no longer depend on rather censored newspapers such as The Villager for their Lower East Side and East Village news are aware, “9/11 Truth” dictators have threatened and harassed people such as myself who have tried to ask questions about the visible and deep laRouche infiltration exemplified by the idealization of “9/11 Truth” guest speakers such as LaRouche veteran Webster Tarpley and the Queens-based violent psychopath Geoffrey Blank.
People are also understandably leery of a church that seems to be connected to a number of premature deaths. UP FRONT News is the first paper to report about the unexpected demise of young Dan Wallace, a former “9/11 Truth” participant who witnessed some of the
harassments against me. A few weeks after Mr. Wallace did a video-interview of me outside St. Mark’s (I was as usual barred by Jamieson/Morales) and after Wallace told me of having been harassed by LaRouche-ites, he was found dead in his bed in Queens. The official NYPD story is “drug overdose.” His girl friend Sabrina Rivero, who told me that she woke up in bed to find him dead next to her, isn’t talking according to reports.
To me this case has a gruesome similarity to that of young Jeremiah Duggan, a one-time LaRouche supporter who got mixed up with LaRouche’s “Schiller Institute” (Webster Tarpley’s base), became a dissenter and wound up prematurely dead under the wheel of a car in Europe. The German police ruled it a suicide but the London Metropolitan Police rejected that conclusion and declared the Schiller Institute “a political cult with sinister and dangerous connections.”
And that is in fact what Jamieson and Morales are running out of St. Mark’s Church.
It appears that the Episcopal Church is turning a blind eye to the very, very, very, very dubious history of pseudo-radical preacher Morales, who is described by one well known Lower East Side free lance journalist as the “disorganizer” and by others in the squatter community as an (erstwhile?) hard drug user and trafficker. I have never witnessed any drug activity by Morales but I have certainly been on the receiving end of some of his threats.
Among those participating in this LaRouche-ite “9/11 Truth” ballot initiative campaign is pro- fessional publicity stuntman Sander Hicks of the almost lily-white Green Party. Hicks owns the Vox Pop coffeehouse in Brooklyn, which is now a corporate entity with Bob Holman’s contribution to Lower Manhattan drug use and gentrification known as the Bowery Poetry Club. Hicks made a lot of money off a dead man named James Hatfield by publishing Hatfield’s very unauthorized biography of George W. Bush entitled “Fortunate Son.” Hatfield, a very good journalist with a very checkered past, also died prematurely with the official determination being “suicide.” Sander Hicks is also the guy who, after I became a well-known Democratic write-in anti-War candidate for the U.S. Senate against Republicrat Hillary Clinton, became the Green Party’s “divide the left” candidate. He ended up getting dumped as a candidate by the Greens after it was revealed that he had donated $5,000 to the Republican National Committee so that he could attend an RNC fundraiser and ask Big Dick Cheney a question about 9/11. Cheney blew him off rather effortlessly. And so Hicks is going into profit-poetry with poet impresario moneyman Bob Holman, who runs an establishment with an (again erstwhile?) “sound man” named “Lucky Dave”,who has run a cocaine racket there and once tried to physically injure me at a “Howl” reading there, featuring among others my friend, the blind poet Steve Cannon (”A Gathering of the Tribes”). Lucky Dave then pressed the point by pulling a knife out of his pocket. Holman, who is becoming something of a weapon of crass deception, responded by having his bouncer thugs threaten me and “86′ing” me from the Bowery Poetry Club. Lovely!
As far as the 9/11 matter is concerned. If there is to be an “independent” NYC commission, then it should have its members selected either by a duly elected body (e.g. the NYC Council, a very unlikely prospect) or by the voters of New York City. Not by the likes of the surrogates for a racist and convicted felon like Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr.
For more on LaRouche read UP FRONT News and get to know investigative journalists such as Dennis King and get to know Vyzygoth’s “Beyong the Grassy Knoll” internet talk show – on which I have been a guest on this and other subjects, e.g. the Genocide in Tibet, twice, while the mainstream and “alternative” media coverups continue.
Impeach Les Jamieson and Frank Morales!
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On the road again
Fri Oct 21, 2005
Ok, I’m going to let the cat out of the bag.
I’m leaving for NYC in a couple hours to interveiw none other than paul isaac jr.
he want to clear the air about a couple things,on the record,and give us somne things off the record. But i’d like to speak ahead of time for him and say that this articvle right here?
“I know 911 was an inside job, the police know its an inside job, and the firemen know it too” Yeah total bullshit !!!
He never said anything of the sort. I’ve got three different videos of paul having it out with lisa and nothing close to that is ever said. Somebodys stretching the truth and I don’t think its paul. Couple that with the complete lack of compliance on the part of chris petherick of AFP who refuses paul request to remove wingtvs article and every other website on the inter which is touting that article as gospel and you can say that pauls a little upset.
RIGHTFULL SO. I just wanted to vent a little because wingtv hasn”t been on the movements goodside for some time now and this incident further throws their character into question.
Dylan Avery AKA RENIGS
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WeAreChange Reporters Released
March 30, 2009 by federalJoe
Filed under Establishing The Police State, Featured Stories
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ANTHONY, MANNY AND LUKE ARE SAFE HOME, LIVE BROADCAST COMING SOON.
(WEARECHANGE) This is Luke Rudkowski here, just got home from the most inhuman place in NYC, Manhattan central bookings. The stories that I have from that place and about everything that has happened while shooting for my new film “Truth to Power” is insane and surreal.
I will try to buy another camera tomorrow in between my class’s in order to give a live video broadcast this Monday March 30th, 10PM Eastern Time on wearechange.org.
I have to buy another camera because the prosecution is keeping all 3 WeAreChange cameras and footage of the incident as criminal evidence. From conversations between wearechange and the mayors office before the incident, to the police department seizing footage of the arrest, you will hear it all on the live broadcast 10Pm Eastern here on WeAreChange. The full story of this incident is yet to be heard.
Special shouts out to Manny and Anthony for being in their with me, these men showed tremendous amounts of courage in the face of intimidation and threats by police intelligence as they filmed the events and were arrested.
I am going to make this a huge issue, all donations will go to the legal defense of wearechange and a counter suit. Anything we can get is greatly appreciated, especially if people can send us used cameras or are able to donate their legal services, the court case is going to be in 2 months.
You can try to stop me, but you cant stop the idea of CHANGE! This is not over by any means.
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Les Jamieson wrote:
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:47:57 -0400
To: ny911truth@lists.riseup.net
From: Les Jamieson
Subject: [ny911truth] NY 911 Truth Update – 8-20-07
Hello all,
Here’s a reminder that tonight at 9pm there will be a 2-hr documentary on the History Channel on the 9/11 truth movement and alternative research. People like David Ray Griffin, Sofia, Jim Fetzer and others were interviewed. Spread the word!
Also, regarding donations to our 6th anniversary events, you can also use Paypal to transfer funds to us. If you don’t have an account, it’s easy to set up by going to http://www.paypal.com. You would first deposit some money from your bank account. Then you can send a donation to us by email at donate@ny911truth.org.
Alternately, you can send a check or money order made out to Civic Empowerment Network and mail it to 9/11 Ballot Initiative, P.O. Box 1063, Cooper Station, NY 10276. Please note the check saying it’s for the weekend events. We have a contributor who will donate $1,000 if we get a total of $2,000 from the group. So far we’ve taken in $150 so there’s a ways to go. Please help make this weekend a success.
FYI, April Gallop, Pentagon survivor has been added to the speakers list. This will be her first time speaking in NYC!
Truth will prevail,
NY 911 Truth
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See how it all boils down to getting your money?
NYsentinel
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Les Jamieson
National Coordinator
NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative
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Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:32:04 -0400
From: “Ryan Rodrigues” Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: “paula gloria tsakona”
CC: nico@911closeup.com, jfetzer@d.umn.edu, “Nico Haupt” , tffoti@hotmaail.com, “Les Jamieson” etc….
“…911 Truth author and former US Senate candidate Sander Hicks
replied “Les, I’ve always known you to be a sane, gentle soul, but
the tone of this letter is like Stalin. From this letter, it seems
you need to take a break.”
Les Jamieson has seized the NY 911 Truth bank account of
approximately $6000 intended to fund weekly street actions that
have been going on since 2003 before Les ever came around where we
pass out DVD’s and leaflets. He also has possession of equipment
including several expensive DVD burners, as well as a projector
also bought with money donated to the group.
There now has been no funding for NYC street activists and we have
been paying out of our own pockets if we want to pass out leaflets
and DVD’s. Les also thinks he has kicked out Luke Rudkowski and Tom
Foti from the group, not coincidentally, the only other people who
were supposed to be on the account. It was agreed upon in NY 911
Truth public steering committee upon vote that Tom and Les would
have an equal joint account, but Les secretly opened account alone
with him being 100% percent owner and did not to the bank together
with Tom. Luke was voted to also be on the account but was never
given access. Les kept stalling, and eventually he decided to lie
to the group about publicly available information (see
http://www.911researchers.com/node/299 ) Tom asks him about it, and
Les uses that as permission to halt the group’s actions. This was
done unilaterally with no permission from anyone else, and Les has
never discussed this in public…
…Even st911.org founder Jim Fetzer had complaints about
Les’ management in the small thing he had to depend on Les for.
Regarding the $6000 in donations, you have said “This is my last
communication on these matters.” In the short time since you said
that, 911 Truth author and former US Senate candidate Sander Hicks
replied “Les, I’ve always known you to be a sane, gentle soul, but
the tone of this letter is like Stalin. From this letter, it seems
you need to take a break…”
complete email at http://www.911researchers.com/node/299
http://www.911researchers.com/node/299#comment-2151
Posted on: Fri, Mar 16 2007 2:58 PM
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Arm yourselves and find a nice place in the bush to hide for a few years, Yanks are terrorists and if they dont kill themselves then someone else is going to do it for them.
my theory is the world has been through total destruction many times before, this is just a vicious cycle, Im from Australia ive got plenty of places to stash my family ,How about you?
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You people need to stop taking the bait, stop wasting your energies and focus on what has already happened – happened as a SYMPTOM of American not controlling its own money supply. It is all about CONTROL OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE by an evil few.
I think we need to FOCUS ON GETTING NEWS OF RON PAUL’S HR1207 OUT THERE to our friends, family, neighbors and community leaders. Once we audit the Fed from the outside, this will lead to its end. Ending the Fed will cut the snake’s head off!
“He who controls the money, controls the people”.
That said, STOP wasting your attentions on 9/11 details. Yes, the official story is a lie but it’s done – time to move on! Ending the Fed can end serious threats of more 9/11’s happening – such as a Swine Flu Epidemic that might be carried-out by “The United States” Corporation (under instruction by the Fed) on the American People on September 9th, 2009 (the date being an upside-down 666)?
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“Stop wasting your attentions of trying to end the Fed. It’s done. Time to move on.”
Just wanted to point out some very faulty reasoning.
We can all focus our attentions of a long list of serious attacks on this nation. We can all work where we want to and focus our attentions on whatever issue(s) that we are most interested in.
While ending the Fed would be a wonderful thing, what basis does anyone have for believing that we can get honest auditors to perform a high-quality honest audit. And even if that were possible, what guarantee is there that that honest audit would definitely lead to the end of the Fed. We are talking about at the least 3 years to do this, and yes, we should try to do this, but we are obligated to show that our truth finding in relation to all those other attacks – 9-11, JFK assassination, RFK, MLK, Columbine, Ruby Ridge, Waco, Oklahoma City — has shown us that all the people at the top levels of our government, including the auditors who will audit the Fed, are in on all the big lies and attacks on the American people.
I think we should never stop talking about all of those past events that all look like “inside jobs”. I think we should never forget 9-11 and never stop asking important questions. The Fed was a big “inside job” and the audiors who will do the work that will redeem and save America are also “inside jobs.”
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The Contrarian Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
I disagree and you missed my point. If “Freedom” was a house, Auditting the Fed would be the foundation.
Your views are not “wrong”; just not the “first thing, first”… As far as the auditors, yes, there has to be a TRANSPARENT manner in which such auditors are screened and chosen and their activities OUGHT TO BE broadcast to the tee…
“A pipedream! Never going to happen!” you might reply but I say, “So what?” You have your PRIMARY, FIRST point of focus. It is up to us to figure-out an effectuive way to put it in-action.
The powers that be stir-up all of the other arguments to keep America unfocused and divided… The bottom line is that 9/11, Iraq, etc. are all offshoots of the Fed’s Control of the money supply… They are SYMPTOMS, not causes… The Fed is ultmately the cause of all the evils since it is the basic puppetmaster of the Puppet Congress and President…
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Archie Reply:
July 19th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
“Once we audit the Fed from the outside, this will lead to its end. Ending the Fed will cut the snake’s head off! ”
Maybe agree but I hardly consider and audit performed by the US GAO “from the outside.”
I agree that “auditing the Fed” is a worthy goal, but not only will it “lead to” killing the Fed, the auditing will really be the killing of the Fed.
All we have gotten from our congress members and senators for many years is deception and trickery and continual set-up of we the people.
I would never say “pipe dream, never going to happen”. Something in the way of an “audit” may take place, but there is no way it can be handled in a calm deliberative way. If and audi is done and done properly and transparently, the already strong suspicions of the people of the utter corruptness of the Fed will probably reach the point of the people want to revolt. The people will not be in the mood for many more months and years of congressional shenanigans purportedly working to end the Fed. The people will want the Fed endeed immediately.
I like the way Max Keiser shows us that Goldman Sachs runs everything, including the Fed. The Federal Reserve directors and chaiman over the last many years should be adjudicted through the RICO Act. Additionally they are all guilty of high treason and should be tried for that as well.
It just seems kind of “too little, too late” to talk about a nice thorough audi of the Fed that will lead to its ending. The crash of the U.S. and the world economies is so far along and they have the one world currency waiting in the wings. How is it realistic to hope for ending the Fed anytime soon and establishing a strong monetary system of the sovereign USA?
If we quietly submit and do not try to fight ALL the scams they are trying to put on us RIGH”T NOW, then of course we all lose.
If we focus our efforts of Ron Paul’s Audit the Fed bill and we somehow are successful, the bad guys in charge of it all will just use another of their many attack fronts to grab our attention.
They always arrange things so that they win either way we react. It’s the dialectic. The action is in our reaction, and no matter what our reaction is (how focused we are on one important thing), they already have a plan in place to quash our “victory.” in getting an audit of the Fed.
The Fed is one and the same as the Wall Street international banksters. Those slugs thing nothing of killing off hundreds of thousands of innocent people instantly. They have done that repeatedly over the last 100 years and they are “sprinting naked” the last few miles to take down all nation states and put the whole world under their control.
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Focus on “9/11 Cancers”
For now, think about this: the people dying of radiation-induced cancers …
http://wtcdemolition.blogspot.com/
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The problem with Kurt’s story is that it is incomplete. As long as he has ‘nothing to say’ about his fellow FEMA watchdog and sidekick of 15+years, Jim, why should we believe any portion of his story? I mention this moot point because I was equally disappointed to be followed around the country by this pair in response to my photography of the WTC on the “Bridgeways Project.” Equally disturbing to me as professional shooter is the fact that virtually no other photos exist by either of these two highly trained individuals. This story still reeks of cover-up as does the work of Architects for Truth.
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I agree that “Architects and Englineers for Truth ( ae911truth.org ) is sham organization. As stated previously, I used to study 9-11 extensively and I remember trying to get the backgrouund on architect Richard Gage who started that group and who is joined at the hip with Dr. Steven Jones group. Mr. Gage is constantly pushing the “molten metal” mantra. He appeared virtually out of nowhere but with this newfound extreme zeal for 9-11 truth. Often government shills come out of nowhere and then put out some big “blockbuster” professionally done book or video, with very cloudy hazy financing. That is Richard Gage.
I personally also believe that Dr. Steven Jones is still wroking for the government, though I know that people associated with RBN do not like to hear that. I just have studied the man’s background and his “studies” and there is seriously something non-truth about all of it.
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SATURDAY, MAY 31, 2008
WHO KILLED DAN WALLACE
By Tom Weiss
As many people now know, the first news account suggesting that the LaRouche-ites who run the so-called “9/11 Truth” groups based at St. Mark’s in-the-Bowery Church may be connected to the death of Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr.-harassed Dan Wallace appeared in UP FRONT News. Why? Because of the fact that Wallace had previously witnessed the multiple harassments of me by people like Les Jamieson and Frank Morales and had taken it upon himself to do a video interview with me outside St. Mark’s on one of the evenings I had been physically barred from entering by Jamieson’s and Morales’ thugs. (There are reasons why St. Mark’s is earning its UP FRONT News label of “Our Lady of LaRouche.”)
During that interview – which was witnessed by No Police State Coalition list-serve co-manager Roman Shusterman – as soon as I mentioned the connections between Jamieson/Morales and LaRouche (via for example so called 9/11 “expert” Webster Tarpley, a LaRouche/Schiller Institute honcho, and via the psychopathic demagogue and deposed dictator of Union Square Geoffrey Blank, et. al.) Mr. Wallace interrupted to tell me that he had been harassed by LaRouche people for some time. At that point his “girlfriend”, identifying herself as “Sabrina”, appeared and confirmed what Mr. Wallace was telling me.
It was a few weeks after that interview that I learned that Mr. Wallace was dead. I recall much outward “mourning” behavior by people including the now political enemies Jamieson and Luke Rudkowski.
According to the NYPD, detectives found a large amont of illegal drugs in Mr. Wallace’s Queens residence and the cause of death was listed as “drug oversose.”
At a Luke Rudkowski-run 9/11-related meeting in the balcony of a midtown deli, I talked very briefly with Sabrina. She told me that she found Mr. Wallace dead in bed next to her. She also volunteered the telephone number for Mr. Wallace’s mother but suggested that his mother might not respond in a friendly way to a call. As I recall it was at that point that the dour and uncommunicative Rudkowski (aptly compared physically by Mr. Shusterman to Eminem) placed himself between Sabrina and me and ordered me to stop asking questions. I responded by telling him not to tell me what to do.
It is a fact that the aging but very active LaRouche, a convicted federal felon (credit card and mail fraud) reportedly off parole, who is making what has to be his last gasp at attaining total power, is actively working with the left (e.g. the Greens, “9/11 Truth”, “World Can’t Wait”, ANSWER) the right (he has had long ties to the KKK as well as ties to the Cheney/Bush gang) and within the mainstream (he is a registered Democrat, recurrently a candidate for president and parades as a worshiper of FDR).
Among the Democrats connected to LaRouche is a yarmulke-wearing crypto-fascist named Charles Lenchner, who, when he was working for Jonathan Tasini, one of LaRouche’s surrogate candidates for the U.S. Senate, pushed me around. Lenchner, presumably still an official in the Progressive Democrats for America (PDA), managed to fifth-column his way into the Dennis Kucinich for President campaign in 2004 and into the John Edwards campaign in 2008. Lenchner is connected to LaRouche’s magazine Executive Intelligence Review.
It is known that the well-camouflaged LaRouche, a worshiper of things German – who lives with his wife Helga Zepp-LaRouche on a plush and isolated estate known as the Ibikus farm in Loudoun County, Va., heads a totalitarian political cult. Aside from UP FRONT News, there is much information on this Hitler-wannabe to be derived from the investigative reporter Dennis King and from the Rick A. Ross Institute and other sources.
LaRouche is known to deal with those who leave his cult harshly. One apparent victim who also met an early demise was Jeremiah Duggan, a young Jewish man who got involved with the LaRouche/Webster Tarpley Schiller Institute. Duggan became a dissenter and wound up being run over by a car. The German police said “suicide” and the London Metropolitan Police rejected that conclusion, labeling the Schiller Institute a “sinister and dangerous cult.”
Jamieson and Morales invited Tarpley to be a guest speaker at “9/11 Truth” a few years ago. When I suggested to Jamieson that “9/11 Truth” members should be made aware of the Tarpley/LaRouche link, he whispered to me, “You better keep your mouth shut about that.” And when Tarpley came to speak at St. Mark’s, during the Q&A, as I asked my question regarding the similarity in 9/11 views between Tarpley and LaRouche, Jamieson tried to physically push me from the microphone.
And when Jamieson and Morales invited the fascist Geoffrey Blank to speak there on December 4, 2005 Blank came with his club-in-the pants leg concealing brownshirts such as the St. Mark’s regular and psychopath with the Hitler-style haircut, Karl Rosenstein (who has tried to assault me on three occasions), the place nearly exploded into LaRouche-style violence.
At some point, there will be complete federal, state and city criminal investigations of the death of Dan Wallace. Maybe Jamieson and Morales can be represented by the convicted terrorism heroine lawyer Lynne Stewart if she escapes prison.
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Paul Isaac Says:
June 29th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Note: forwarded message attached. Dec. 8, 2006
Knowing how sensitive for example the generally absent “9/11 Truth” activist Joe Carranza is about spelling, I want to correct a typo in my attached e-mail exposing Les Jamieson for the total fraud that he is. In the last paragraph the word “brownshorts”, referring to Geoffrey Blank’s armed thugs, should read “brownshirts.” Indeed, if the wacko, photographed “squat- ter” Carl Rosenstein had worn brown shorts, his club would have been visible.
As far as reports of Frank Morales’ involvement in hard drug use and trafficking are con- cerned, I would think, since Jamieson presumably knows nothing about this matter (unless he is also involved) that, if only to protect himself legally, he follow the advice that he some- times whispers to me and to keep his mouth shut. Reports of drug use and trafficking involv- ing St. Mark’s-in-the-Bowery Assistant Pastor Morales should be investgated by the Episco- pal Church and by law enforcement. It’s bad enough that, in inviting Tarpley to speak, “9/11 Truth” was host to man associated with a convicted felon like Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr.
Tom Weiss – Member, St. Mark’s in-the-Bowery Church.
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Our parents fell for Pearl Harbor…..we fell for 911….
“All Wars Are Based On Deception”
- Sun Tzu
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Comment from you tube video of Evolution of 9/11 Truth at St Mark’s posted by: Paula Gloria
“This rare gem was passed to Paula Gloria by Joe Friendly and upon viewing got her interested in understanding not why Nico Haupt was a lunatic but what incredibly deep unmet need was at the basis of the tragic expressions that turned purportedly pro-investigation people to march lock-step along a predetermined understanding of what happened technically to bring down the towers during 9/11. A few weeks after this turbulent meeting Dan Wallace died (or was killed) and “We Are Change” initiated when Luke and Les Jamieson, the leader of 9/11 “Truth” parted ways. The newly formed “We Are Change” never met at St Marks and started to have a physical meeting space at Warren 12 while Les Jamison, under the watchful eye of Frank Morales the then Reverend of St Marks, remained at St. Marks initially organizing and raising money. They illegally indicated people could have a tax write-off for donations to a political cause putting St Mark’s 501c3 at legal risk when raising money for the 9/11 Ballot initiative designed by Carl Person. This initiative had the all important Office of City Attorney General included so that the required funding plan could be included; without it it would never fly. Whoever wanted a real investigation to NOT happen realized the danger that Office of City Attorney General presented for not only 911 Truth but many other urgent wrongs, including our financial crisis. Thus a certain Dr Pepper of shady background was put on the project to destroy it. This was done by seducing Frank Morales and Les Jamieson the leader of 9/11 “Truth” with money IF the critical office of City Attorney General was removed from the ballot initiative (rendering it impossible to pass through the legal requirements). It would never have a chance. This was done against the wishes of the steering committee, proving yet again that all 9/11 truth at St Marks is done only by Les Jamieson and Frank Morales who despite being “retired” as Reverend still seems to be at St Marks running 9/11 meetings behind the scenes with a cadre of supporters. It is worthy of note that Dr Pepper was accused of pedophilia in the Northeast (can someone out there give me more details?) and such accusations are supported by material in his own book “The Self Motivated Child”, showing he was perfect for a job that gives earnest and innocent truth seekers an eternally limited form of 9/11 truth. Why do such practices still continue with questionable responsibility at St Marks under the hand of Frank Morales and Les Jamieson ensuring that real truth and the ensuing freedom that comes about in truth’s presence never develops?
What is happening to 9/11 “Truth” at St Marks today?”
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Jimmy Walters, who appeared at St Marks church at a 9/11 Truth event and showed a film focusing on the sexual habits, homosexuality, bestiality and sexual perversions (in detail) of members of the Bush administration. Many of those in attendance left, appalled at the content being presented at a Les Jamieson promoted 9/11 event.
Les Jamieson
National Coordinator
NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative
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Jimmy Walters, who appeared at St Marks church at a 9/11 Truth event and showed a film focusing on the sexual habits, homosexuality, bestiality and sexual perversions (in detail) of members of the Bush administration. Many of those in attendance left, appalled at the content being presented at a Les Jamieson promoted 9/11 event.
Les Jamieson
National Coordinator
NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative / NYCCAN
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Despite all arguments against it, I see no reason to sway from my original viewpoint of Auditting the Fed first-and-foremost. You oversee the OITSIDE Audit, You subsequently show Americans that they have been duped since 1913; they revolt; you stop the Amero effectively because people will see it as more the same (just on a larger scale)…. Now, you bring back the Original “Constitution for the united States for America” (not the Corporate “United States” Constitution that we have been ruled under for many years)….and you then let each state control its own money supply – a “dollar”, not a Federal Reserve Note will be used as the “united States’” currency. …We need to get back to a loose collection of 50 States with a weak Federal Government… The ONLY way to do that is to re-gain control of the money supply.
Xs and Os and splitting hairs of who controls what is irrelevant! Whether Goldman Sachs controls the Fed, IS the Fed or vice-versa – who cares!? All you need to know is that the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT is not doing what it is SUPPOSED to do when it comes to our “money” supply. The Federal Government NEVER had the power to give its power away – and it did just that when it allowed the PRIVATE Fed/Federal Reserve take control and PRINT (not “COIN”) Federal Reserve Notes…
Yes, thee are many ills to choose from and many people may die in the end no matter what but we HAVE to get our focus on the FIRT THING, FIRST! … Control of our own money supply is the answer – period! HOW we assure that we get a fair, transparent audit is up to us… and if 300 Million Americans (or even 20% of that) would finally WAKE-UP! then a smoother sail is going to result.
Will it be easy – no! Nothing worth doing ever is easy – but that does not mean we should not try…. EVERYTHING else you people are talking about is ultimately IRRELEVANT – like discussing the windows and roof of a house without even getting its FOUNDATION in place.
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Archie Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 9:49 am
“Nothing worth doing ever is easy – but that does not mean we should not try…. EVERYTHING else you people are talking about is ultimately IRRELEVANT – like discussing the windows and roof of a house without even getting its FOUNDATION in place.”
I have never said “we should not try” so please stifle that straw-man argument.
We do indeed need a loose confederacy with more power to the states.
I just do not agree with your advising us that all these other crisis-level issues and legislative matters hitting us right now are irrelevant. It is by exposing them in the light of day that more power is afforded to the kill the Fed efforts.
Yes, the “money trust” has always been the problem. Unfortunately the only people who can become congress members, senators and presidents are puppets of the money trust.
Yes, the whole system needs to come down so we can start anew and start rightly. Will that happen without a civil revolution. I doubt it seriously. And a physical revolution is exactly what “they” want to provoke us to, so they can install martial law. The trap is very real and very relevant.
Somehow, we need to stop reactiving to and fighting for or fighting against every new crisis issue of the day. We need to proactively start building a sub society, a sub system. That is why people ought to be setting up barter systems and networking systems that are not primarily web bases. That is the way to drop out and start anew.
The whole Federal Reserve thing is imploding all on its own right now.
The way Bernanke and Paulson have issued thinly veiled threats that they’re going to take down our whole monetary system if “we don’t stop pushing for audit the Fed”, or if we don’t hand over 7 billion of taxpayer dollars to Goldman Sachs via the Fed, etc…
All these threats are only serving to expose themselves as the liars, cheats, theives and extortioists that they are. Auditing these guys will be somewhat anti-climactic. They are doing themselves in right now quite nicely.
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The Contrarian Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 10:13 am
Archie, why can you not see this? Why complicate the matter? It is like starting a building. The very first thing you must do is an Audit of the Fed. It matters not the complications we face in this venture – it is the ULTIMATE Answer we have to resolve. “Everything else” wrong is about “money” and greed… When a transparent, publically governed, state (as in each of the 50 states) is given control of its money supply, we will have freedom. It must FIRST start with this Audit, regardless of the possible crookedness we might face WITH this audit.
To say, “it is imploding on itself” is not much of a response. The powers that be are hoping we do not Audit the Fed or even learn that the Fed is? They are ready to replace their monster with an even bigger monster – probably the Amero before a global currency after that… And If you asked 100 people on the street, I would guess 95 would think The FEDERAL Reserve is part of the Government. What if these 95 knew the truth?
We need anger and we need actuion from it. Not the sword but the pen. Of course, they are ready now with FEMA Camps and physical uprisings. “They” expect a dumb America to remain dumb. Dumb people always lash-out in physical violence when they have had enough and know of no other way to combat a confusing irritant.
Start educating. Tell people the truth about the Fed and urge them to get on the phones to chew-out the ears of the Members of the House of Reps and ESPECIALLY their Senators… HR 1207 and S 604. Tell them!
Yes, Freedom will be a 1000 Mile Journey but THIS is the first step.
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Archie Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 10:31 am
I do see this.
“They are ready to replace their monster with an even bigger monster – probably the Amero before a global currency after that… And If you asked 100 people on the street, I would guess 95 would think The FEDERAL Reserve is part of the Government. What if these 95 knew the truth? ”
The Federal Reserve is already a part of the Bank of International Settlements in Basil, Switzerland, and they already report to them. So the real monster is already in place and in charge. What name or form the international currency takes in the near-term or long-term future is irrelevant to me. I personally think they are going for broke right now and won’t bother with the Amero. They will just put in some worldwide currency. It sure as heck won’t have anything to do with “paper” or “gold”.
It would not make much difference if these 95 percent knew the truth. The hope has always resided with the tiny percentage who will take up arms and wage the real fight, just as in the American Revolution.
“Polical power comes out of the muzzle of a gun.”
Chairman Mao
The Contrarian Reply:
July 20th, 2009 at 12:34 pm
Yes, the Fed is conduit into America – a bridge; so we must blow-up the bridge!
And yes, the 95 informed Americans need not be all ignited to action, just 20% of the 95 – as our Colonial Brothers in Arms had at their sides in the Revolutionary War.
Amero or other “money”, we need to get the 20% of the 95 people to “scare” their Reps. and Senators into blowing-up the bridge.
“”Give me control of a nation’s money and I care not who makes the laws.”
-Mayer Amschel Rothschild
“When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.”
-Thomas Jefferson
Fear is the son and Apathy is the daughter of ignorance.
Start/keep educating…
…Get your Res. and Senators to Audit then End the Fed or Federal Reserve. HR 1207 and S 604, people! Inform your neighbors, family and friends where the 1st step in the fight MUSt start! Do it now!
Yes, you will be ridiculed and mocked by many – but who cares!? Surely 2 in 10 (20%) of the People you inform will be ignited – and that is all WE really need.
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JFK was going to end the Fed and smash the CIA into a thousand pieces. He found that Eisenhower’s warning of the military industrial complex running this country was indeed true, and they were pushing for war with the Soviet Union. The people and organizations who had his public execution carried out became even more powerful in the years that followed his, his brother’s, MLK’s and countless other’s assassinations. They successfully came to have ultimate control over the US media. Hence today, it’s a rally around the flag and demonize and marginalize the voices of dissent. The american people are nothing short of programmed. Sheeple is a good word for them. The truth is constantly covered and nicely painted over. My belief is that 911 was an inside job. It all fits into the larger picture. I was 8 years old when JFK was killed. Now at 54 years old, the Vietnam experience, all of the 60’s, events that have occurred over the globe , including the clandestine overthrows of democratically elected governments in South America and elsewhere make the whole picture much clearer. My advice: seek the truth (you won’t find it in mainstream media), get off the grid, express your thoughts as freely as you can to try to rescue others who are caught up in the programmed everyday propaganda in this country, and try to live a life that teaches young folks to always question authority, and emancipate yourselves from mental slavery( as Bob Marley sang of) Our whole sick society has been so well programmed. The college football season is upon us and millions devote their energies and minds to this meaningless yearly activity, which is only one of the many delusions nestled within our society, that teaches lies as history and celebrates crap like Christmas to give the economy a boost. It is indeed a sad state of affairs. Those that wield the power in the world fabricate history to their convenience and profit , while the people of this country are lulled into stupidity and are focused on survival from week to week. Those of us who see the beast for who it is are overcome with a helpless feeling. Public protest has been swept away as a means of change as so many are divided in this nation. That’s what they want. Those protests of the 60’s could never occur today. All one can do is to try to educate those who can’t or refuse to see truth. Again, in Marley’s words, EMANCIPATE YOURSELVES FROM MENTAL SLAVERY, NONE BUT OURSELVES CAN FREE OUR MINDS.
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New book is out in 2009, but the 2001 book is really mandatory for every high school student and older.
btw, earlier poster endorsed a J. Bergermeister link, the update on her is that she’s mentally paranoid, possibly with good intentions, possibly just poisoning the well re flu, fact is, she’s suing everyone in sight who had tried to help her with info and her filings are legally rather amateurish, a la Orly Taitz on the birther issue, for confirmation, listen to the recent (this week’s) Dr. Deagle podcasts at gcnlive.com or nutrimedical.com (yes, his advice is best, iodine that’s atomic, silver citrate, and Allimax, daily for flu prevention, and NO vaccines for the rest of your life).
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click the name thomas H greco to see the link to the fantastic book about money…
http://www.amazon.com/Money-Understanding-Creating-Alternatives-Tender/dp/1890132373/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1253616528&sr=8-3
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The point is that prior to or after establishing states’ rights, small communities have to understand what credit is and how it can be created and maintained within local trusted groups.
So it’s a great and essential primer, in fact the 2001 book is a lot less complicated, with less to dispute, it sticks to the basics and illustrates successful creation of legal tender alternatives all over the world, not that you’d hear about it much in the msm.
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29 million propaganda with 33 different message for war in Kuwait,and to create new’s war must have the power full propaganda second wave for war in Iraqis and Afganistan it’s the 9/11 2001 WTC New York the “Motivation esecond wave”Remote viewing campaign
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