Confronted with big job losses and no sign the U.S. economy is ready to stand on its own, Democrats are working on a growing list of relief efforts, leaving for later how to pay for them, or whether even to bother.
Proposals include extending and perhaps expanding a popular tax credit for first-time home buyers, and creating a new credit for companies that add jobs. Taken together, the proposals look a lot like another economic stimulus package, though congressional leaders don’t want to call it that.
Democratic leaders in Congress and the White House say they have no appetite for another big spending package that adds to the federal budget deficit, which hit a record $1.4 trillion for the budget year that ended last week.
But with unemployment reaching nearly 10 percent, many lawmakers are feeling pressure to act. Some of the proposals come from the Republicans’ playbook and focus on tax cuts, even though they, too, would swell the deficit.
“We have to do something for the unemployed, politically and economically,” said Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., chairman of the tax-writing Ways and Means Committee.
The House already has voted to extend unemployment benefits an additional 13 weeks for laid off workers in the 27 states where the jobless rate is 8.5 percent or above. Senate Democrats reached a deal Thursday to extend the benefits an additional 14 weeks in every state. Both proposals are paid for by extending a federal unemployment tax.
Also on the table: extending subsidies for laid-off workers to help them keep the health insurance their former employers provided, known as COBRA. The current program, which covers workers laid off through the end of the year, costs nearly $25 billion.
Congressional leaders haven’t settled on the length of an extension, or how to pay for it.
Several bills would issue extra payments to the more than 50 million Social Security recipients, to make up for the lack of a cost-of-living increase next year. One bill would set the one-time payments at $250, matching the amount paid to Social Security recipients and railroad retirees as part of the stimulus package enacted in February.
The payments would cost about $14 billion and would be paid for by applying the Social Security payroll tax to incomes between $250,000 and $359,000 in 2010. Currently, payroll taxes apply only to the first $106,800 of a worker’s income.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said she is also considering a Republican proposal to allow money-losing companies to use their losses to get refunds of taxes paid in the previous five years. Under current law, most companies can only use current losses to get refunds from the previous two years.
“The issue of a net operating loss carryback to five years rather than two is an idea that has some currency,” Pelosi said.
Pelosi didn’t offer specifics, but a similar proposal that was dropped from the first stimulus package had a cost of $19.5 billion.
Pelosi said she is also looking into extending and expanding a popular tax credit for first-time homebuyers. The credit, set to expire Dec. 1, allows first-time homebuyers to reduce their federal income taxes by 10 percent of the price of a home, up to a maximum of $8,000.
Pelosi said the credit could be expanded to people who already own homes, though she offered no details. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., has announced his support for extending the existing credit an additional six months.
“The question is, would that be just first-time homeowners or would you open it up to other purchasers of homes?” Pelosi said.
The program is scheduled to run for 11 months this year and cost a projected $6.6 billion. Extending or expanding the program would add to the costs.
Lawmakers are also working on proposals to award tax credits to companies that add jobs. Obama’s economic team proposed a similar incentive during negotiations over the stimulus package enacted in February but the idea was abandoned amid questions over its implementation.
A proposal by Sen. Arlen Specter, D-Pa., would provide a $4,000 tax credit, to be paid out over two years, for each new employee. His office could not provide a cost estimate.
Pelosi said lawmakers need to hear from economists before settling on a package to create jobs. “What is it that we can afford? What works the fastest?” Pelosi said.
Rep. Dave Camp, D-Mich., the top Republican on the Ways and Means Committee, said: “The fact that they’re putting forward all of these things is really an indication that the stimulus was a failure. It didn’t work.”
Congress passed a $787 billion economic stimulus package in February, providing tax cuts for individuals and businesses, relief for the unemployed, spending on infrastructure and aid to the states.
President Barack Obama and other Democrats are adamant the package has lessened the effects of the recession, saving jobs that would have otherwise been cut. Nevertheless, the unemployment rate rose to 9.8 percent in September, the highest since 1983. A total of 15.1 million people are unemployed, and 7.2 million jobs have been eliminated since the recession began in December 2007.
























Bailout is Bullshit !
OK you’ve got six weeks , to get your picket signs made , and/or to get yourself a big yellow Gadsen , Don’t Tread On Me Flag , and a flagpole !
This November 22nd , thousands of Patriots , will again gather to carry out rallies , in over 38 US Cities calling for an End to The Federal Reserve Banking system of the International Banking Criminals who decide to fate of Nations the world over .
We will keep the heat on the Bankster Criminals and expose their destruction of our Nations .
Prepare now to be there !
Make History , Not Excuses !
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October 9th, 2009 at 8:34 am
End the Fed sounds good except you are attacking the problem on the worse end. The better end is if every individual decides to stop living as a 14th Amendment Citizen. People have no desire to stop writing interstate commerce checks from their bank accounts to pay for things nor do they want to give-up their credit carrds… So, you are wasting your time in the end. Sounds good and all but those who know the game will laugh, yawn and continue with business as usual.
Personal freddom comes from personal diligence, Taken collectively, we can then again someday have a nation much like the original intent of the Founding Fathers.
You are attempting to kill the snake at the tail though you think you are at the head. The head lies within the individual and whether they choose to live under the 14th Amendment or not…as described above… And until people realize this, all of these marches, though they look good on paper, are a waste of time.
Yes, I voted for Ron Paul and voiced for an end to the Fed, but when I realized the answer lies within me – and you, and you, and you, not in a march or marches but in the choices I make everyday. I choose to not be a 14th Amendment Citizen anymore and therefore not be subject to income taxes… These bail-outs happen because people remain 14th Amendment Citizens – living on credit and mortgages and car payments.
Live within your means and stop being 14th Amendment Sheople.
Thank you.
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Israel is the WHORE of Babylon.
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Do You Think Our Senators really care about “affordable,” health care for the average American? Neither Al or Amy has either signed on to S. 604, the senate version of H.R. 1207, that has at least 289 co sponsors. What exactly does “affordable” health care mean? More socialism will only bring more tyranny. What does Employer responsibility mean? Does that mean Budgeting properly and not relying on big brother handouts so the state and federal government can tell them what to do. Does that mean not lying to their employees? Or expanding the size and look of the buildings while laying them off and trying to get rid of any pension. Wake up people the “Public option” Is another term for totalatarian tip toe incrementelisim so that big brother can micromanage every aspect of our lives. The social engineers that brought us medicare are going to bring us a public option that eventually everyone but the so called elite will be forced into. Has anyone seen the stock in verichip lately? Vote yes for real reform. Does anyone know what that means? Real reform means Read The Constitution! Where is health care a right in the constitution? Or maybe you want to live under agenda 21 U.N. Dictatorship? Turn off the TV and read! Tell the congress that we demand health freedom. Tell Them that we demand you read any bill. Tell them that we the people demand time to read and understand any bill. Understand what an individual mandate is. Say No! No last minute additions. No threats of martial law or a breakdown of society. You people that think you have power, don’t you understand that you will be forced to accept the poison too. Please break your conditioning, or maybe you get off on it! You might have a few more toys a few more vacations with a few more drinks to dull your depression of the false reality that you have created. In the meantime your grandchildren will be born with more health problems. Your loved ones will see more and more early onset alzheimers and a breakthrough will be right around the corner with a new implant. Do you know that “herd immunity” is really only pseudoscience? Or maybe you like being treated as cattle. 100% is the goal. Where is the real evidence? It’s hidden in scientific doublespeak. This is herd mentality. Look up^ Look Around We are in a petri dish! Do you know what a “mock up” virus is? MF 59? Aso3? Squalene? GWS? GBS? Read! Investigate! Chan says swine flu is mild, yet Freiden says, “on average flu is not a mild illness.” As Public Enemy would say, “Don’t Believe the Hype!” Prof Griff knows whats going on! Peace! Good, Love& Liberty will prevail! (Tyranny)
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The real unemployment rate is about 17%, nationwide. The finances of our governments, local, state, and federal are in shambles because they’re not getting as much tax income. More home mortgages are in default all across the country then ever before and commercial loans are closing fast on the home mortgage default rate.
So what in the world caused all these problems? Well lets do some review.
With ISO 9000 certifications, American businesses that used to be the life blood of our country, have been neatly packed up and shipped out of country. With NAFTA those items made by the now overseas/out of country businesses are returned through Canada or Mexico and sold in America without any tariffs.
Slowly but surely ISO 9000 certification has funneled our American businesses and wealth out of the country. For those who don’t understand what ISO 9000 certification is I’ll make it real simple. You write down instructions for everything it takes to open and operate a particular business anywhere in the world.
By using this instruction book, someone can take a business; I’ll use for example: Little Fuse, that used to be in Arcola IL, (they made fuses for all kinds of stuff including the space shuttle). So anyway they get ISO 9000 certified, Yeah! Everyone is happy at first because they were told this would be a really good thing for the company. Well, now that idiot proof instructions have been written on how to do what they did in Arcola, IL guess what? Businesses are in business to make money, it’s all about the profit, they don’t do it for you or your neighbor. Business are in business for the same reason you work for them; to make money! So why would they pay all those high wages and benefits that Americans demand, that cut into their profits? With ISO 9000 they can make those same fuses in Mexico for a whole lot less. Thanks to NAFTA they don’t have to pay any tariffs to ship them back into America. Not to mention in places like Mexico you don’t have the tough regulators like the EPA, OSHA, Labor Unions, well you get the idea. If I’m in business to make money, what incentive do I have to keep that business here in America? None! so they win all the way around.
So we ship off as many of our businesses that actually make stuff as possible and try to regulate and tax the rest out of the businesses, out of business. In the mean time people went into debt when the jobs were here in America and now they got no job to pay that debt back. Illegal immigrants are over burdening the medical system because under the law, they don’t have to pay for medical treatment if they get the most expensive kind possible, IE. the Emergency Room. Then we have illegal immigrants taking the few meager paying jobs we have left and use the excuse Americans won’t do those jobs. And now the government is making money out of thin air because the golden goose got up and left the country under ISO 9000 and NAFTA and wallah you have America today.
So now that we’ve driven out the golden goose, let’s all jump on the socialist band wagon and say capitalism is bad and let the government run everything. The government can fix it, because they’re so good about running things. Like the IRS, the Post Office, Unemployment, Social Security, Medicare the list goes on and on. Never mind that capitalism has built the leader of the world in less than 200 years and the people living under the capitalist system are free and have human rights most other countries can only dream of.
So how do we fix the real problem? Pretty simple, you get rid of the barriers to create businesses like over regulation, you take away the incentives to have your business in other countries and your product shipped back into America. When Americans begins producing high quality real items again, that is when the economy will be fixed. When we start returning America’s wealth to America instead of shipping it out of the country that is when the economy will improve.
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